The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[MLSKINS]

Who's the best player to come out of the D League?

First of all, I don't follow the NBDL at all. I watch like maybe 30 seconds of a game when I see it on Versus, but that is about it.

Between all the people I do know that played in the NBDL, to me, it is a toss up between Skip and Bobby Simmons. Skip was my man during that playoff run the Magic had in the 2009 playoffs. I honestly think if Nelson hadn't tried to rush back and play in the Finals, the Magic would have been more competitive.

Bobby Simmons used to get his man with the Clippers. Then he got paid with the Bucks and I haven't heard from the bamma since.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

The caps game got me so excited that I couldn't subject myself to watching the Wiz tonite

I watched one second and saw Gerald Wallace ugly ass body us down in the post

Did anything positive happen tonite besides J Craw ?

[StillUnknown]

The caps game got me so excited that I couldn't subject myself to watching the Wiz tonite

I watched one second and saw Gerald Wallace ugly ass body us down in the post

Did anything positive happen tonite besides J Craw ?

there was nothing positive about the game tonight...........at all

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

First of all, I don't follow the NBDL at all. I watch like maybe 30 seconds of a game when I see it on Versus, but that is about it.

Between all the people I do know that played in the NBDL, to me, it is a toss up between Skip and Bobby Simmons. Skip was my man during that playoff run the Magic had in the 2009 playoffs. I honestly think if Nelson hadn't tried to rush back and play in the Finals, the Magic would have been more competitive.

Bobby Simmons used to get his man with the Clippers. Then he got paid with the Bucks and I haven't heard from the bamma since.

Are you sure Bobby Simmons played in the NBDL? I remember him playing for the Wizards like 10 years ago. It doesn't seem like the D League has been around that long.

there was nothing positive about the game tonight...........at all

This. I mean when Seraphin picked up his 3rd foul and left the game with one min left in the 1st, he was leading the team in scoring with 10. When he came back in with 6 mins left in the 3rd...he was leading the team in scoring with 10.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

Smh

*forces self to think about the "bright" future*

[MLSKINS]

Are you sure Bobby Simmons played in the NBDL? I remember him playing for the Wizards like 10 years ago. It doesn't seem like the D League has been around that long.

My bad. He is in the D-League now. I thought he played there between the Wizards and Clippers.

[stevemcqueen1]

You're right about us being a bad team. But I'm not sure we're bad just because of Blatche.

We're bad because of a overall lack of talent.

And fwiw, I'm not as high on John Wall as many of you guys are.

Yeah I agree with you that Blatche isn't the mother of all our problems, but you can't pull too much away from a blowout. The team has some talented building blocks. It needs a few more and the bench needs work, and the formula needs some tinkering to come up with the right chemistry, but mostly the team just needs time to develop.

For everyone bashing McGee, yet again, but giving Wall a pass, your agenda is now clear Wall played like utter **** last night too. Crawford too. The whole team did. Let's just scrap the whole thing and start over right? Let's trade everyone while their value is high. Wall will never be more than Mo Williams.

Honestly, some of you all are as knee jerk as the swarms in the gameday threads.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 09:46 AM ----------

I tried to defend Javale McGee on many occasions: after tonight, I won't do it anymore. I have come to a realization that he will never be an effective NBA Center. The Blazers are making him look like a poindexter out there.

Please, when did you ever try and defend McGee? You were bashing him after his good games.

---------- Post added March-23rd-2011 at 09:49 AM ----------

Yi= meh
Jordan Crawford =

Wait... what? Based on last night? His little 3-15 from the floor 6 turnover performance gets him a pass?

[SiCkSoULjA]

+1

Most guys on this thread have there favorite players and will defend them no matter how sucky they played. Its okay too defend a player and like players but lets get real guys McGee wasn't the reason we lost he had the best +/- out of starters which isn't saying much cause we sucked with him. We lost cause we suck and short on talent. McGee had an awful game Aldridge had his way with him, Aldridge may be the best young center/powerforward in the game outside of Dwight, he also dominated every other player that was guarding him. Nicolas Batum should not be dominating. Every game we get exposed by other teams 4th and 5th best players.

[No Excuses]

For everyone bashing McGee, yet again, but giving Wall a pass, your agenda is now clear Wall played like utter **** last night too. Crawford too. The whole team did. Let's just scrap the whole thing and start over right? Let's trade everyone while their value is high. Wall will never be more than Mo Williams.

Are we holding 3rd year players to same standard as rookies now?

The mistakes McGee makes on the court aren't due maturity or age. He's an idiot. A really really dumb individual who doesn't get it.

There is no agenda in holding different assessment criteria for players of different experience level.

[pjfootballer]

At 17-52, are we ready for the draft yet? Some were saying at the beginning of the season, that this was a playoff calibre team and I knew it wasn't. I hate being right, because since the 1977-78 season, I've been waiting to see the team hoist another NBA trophy. We were close to being a great team in the late 90's, but it's been an uphill battle since. It's a shame that the team seems to be getting worse. Sometimes you have to get worse to get better.

Has anyone seen the new uniforms for next year? The Red, White and Blues? I'm anxious to see them.

We need to take Wall and a few others on the team and continue to build around them. I think this is an even more critical draft this year because we'll most likely be in the top 5 and we need to make that pick count. I really think Ted will turn this team around and it all starts with letting Ernie and Skip go. Ernie has done all he can and Skip just doesn't mesh with a younger roster.

[StillUnknown]

the criticism of McGee goes beyond any 1 game, its a collection of what we've seen since he's been here

[No Excuses]

the criticism of McGee goes beyond any 1 game, its a collection of what we've seen since he's been here

Three years of inconsistent boneheaded stupidity with very little signs of fixing it. The only thing he's adapted to is the speed of the game and nothing else.

The contrast already exists on our roster. Kevin Seraphin. Watch him play. He struggles because he hasn't adapted to the style of play in the NBA. Once he has that under control, he will be an effective player who isn't a detriment to the team when he is on the floor.

If in year 3, Wall, Seraphin, Crawford etc. are sucking big fat chunks, then they'll be called out accordingly.

[SiCkSoULjA]

Three years of inconsistent boneheaded stupidity with very little signs of fixing it. The only thing he's adapted to is the speed of the game and nothing else.

The contrast already exists on our roster. Kevin Seraphin. Watch him play. He struggles because he hasn't adapted to the style of play in the NBA. Once he has that under control, he will be an effective player who isn't a detriment to the team when he is on the floor.

If in year 3, Wall, Seraphin, Crawford etc. are sucking big fat chunks, then they'll be called out accordingly.

Then whats all the love for Nick Young? If hes struggling hes having a bad game and will snap out of it even though hes just as inconsistant as McGee. All the guys are young and thats the problem with this team theres no hardcore vet to set these guys straight WHO IS GOING TO LISTEN TOO YI?

Also McGee just turned 23 years old blame the way the system is where nobody is staying in college and maturing. Now 3 years in the league for some of these players are just not enough. I am not ready to give up on a 23 year old player who was suppose to be a project in this league too begin with. I Don't think its right to blame the guy for this teams failings when its a whole team as a whole.

THE TEAM SUCKS PERIOD its that simple at first everybody thought Blatche was the problem we suck just as bad without him, so they move on too McGee.

[stevemcqueen1]

Are we holding 3rd year players to same standard as rookies now?

The mistakes McGee makes on the court aren't due maturity or age. He's an idiot. A really really dumb individual who doesn't get it.

There is no agenda in holding different assessment criteria for players of different experience level.

McGee is a center, that position takes much, much longer to adjust to and develop in the NBA than guard. Though this is McGee's third year, he's got basically the same number of starts as Wall and he's probably played only a relatively small number of minutes more than Wall has. He is not an experienced player and he's basically on the same career arc as Wall.

Regarding Crawford, he's 22 and McGee is 23. The gap in their experience isn't that huge. Crawford is raw as all hell too when his adjustment should have been a lot easier to make since he's an older rookie playing an easier position. Yet he gets the benefit of the doubt and McGee doesn't?

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

McGee is a center, that position takes much, much longer to adjust to and develop in the NBA than guard. Though this is McGee's third year, he's got basically the same number of starts as Wall and he's probably played only a relatively small number of minutes more than Wall has. He is not an experienced player and he's basically on the same career arc as Wall.

Regarding Crawford, he's 22 and McGee is 23. The gap in their experience isn't that huge. Crawford is raw as all hell too when his adjustment should have been a lot easier to make since he's an older rookie playing an easier position. Yet he gets the benefit of the doubt and McGee doesn't?

I agree with this entire post.