The Official Washington Wizards Thread

[StillUnknown]

Trading McGee would be contradictory to building around Wall though, as he's a super athletic big who can benefit a lot from Wall's exceptional passing. We do need more shooters though.

or it means the front office feels McGee won't improve much from his current level

[Gator Bait]

But you want Klay Thompson. He has a weed arrest on his record....as of a few months ago.

that was one isolated incident that he manned up about....he didn't make any excuses and I like how he handled the situation. Josh shelby, on the other hand, has a long list of things that point to character issues....missing team dinners/practices, academic ineligibility in high school, 9 game suspension in college for accepting benefits etc.....it just seems like decision after decision is poor.

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or it means the front office feels McGee won't improve much from his current level

ding ding ding.....McGee plays with the IQ of a sack of bricks....he makes the dumbest damn decisions on the court and hasn't seemed to improve in that aspect over the past few years. I'm not buying the reports that we could swap McGee for #2.....but if in fact the Twolves continue to make stupid moves and did that.....as someone else pointed out.....we could have Dwill at #2 and grab Bismack (for defense) at #6....that would be perfect.

[Buford]

I don't think you trade McGee right now. He shows more and more bursts of quality play. I think right now his biggest issue is no good teacher/head coach.

[Gator Bait]

I don't think you trade McGee right now. He shows more and more bursts of quality play. I think right now his biggest issue is no good teacher/head coach.

what have you been watching? McGee makes the same mistakes over and over again...you don't need a good coach to realize it is a bad idea to try and dunk over another player from the free throw line on a fast break.....or to realize that you can't swat the ball when it is already on a downward motion towards the basket...yet he does this 3-4 times a game.

for the right offer, I'd trade McGee in a heartbeat...doubt it happens though...these rumors of #2 for McGee are absurd....not even Kevin McHale would make this trade.

[Buford]

what have you been watching? McGee makes the same mistakes over and over again...you don't need a good coach to realize it is a bad idea to try and dunk over another player from the free throw line on a fast break.....or to realize that you can't swat the ball when it is already on a downward motion towards the basket...yet he does this 3-4 times a game.

for the right offer, I'd trade McGee in a heartbeat...doubt it happens though...these rumors of #2 for McGee are absurd....not even Kevin McHale would make this trade.

I don't agree. I think Saunders was hired to coach Arenas/Butler/Jamison as a more vet group who was already making the playoffs. You could say the same thing about a number of younger guys making the same mistakes. When that happens I ask "What are they doing in practice?" because I simply don't believe Flip is putting in the work.

[RonArtest15]

that was one isolated incident that he manned up about....he didn't make any excuses and I like how he handled the situation. Josh shelby, on the other hand, has a long list of things that point to character issues....missing team dinners/practices, academic ineligibility in high school, 9 game suspension in college for accepting benefits etc.....it just seems like decision after decision is poor.

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ding ding ding.....McGee plays with the IQ of a sack of bricks....he makes the dumbest damn decisions on the court and hasn't seemed to improve in that aspect over the past few years. I'm not buying the reports that we could swap McGee for #2.....but if in fact the Twolves continue to make stupid moves and did that.....as someone else pointed out.....we could have Dwill at #2 and grab Bismack (for defense) at #6....that would be perfect.

IMO, doesn't matter if he manned up or not, he has a red flag just as Selby does. I think your viewpoint when talking about Selby/Thompson is a bit hypocritical.

Moving on...I do agree with you in that if the Wizards move McGee for the #2, they must not see his ceiling being too much higher. Personally, I have a hard time believing that they'd leave a huge void at the 5 just to take Williams who is a 3/4 tweener. But this is just me on the outside looking in. Unless there are absolutely no takers for Blatche, I would think he would be the first guy moved off this roster. The fact that he was left out of the whole "rebranding" promo is curious....he already messed up once this offseason w. his "Lapdance Tuesdays" promotion. I hope we can find a taker for him...and use HIM as bait to move up to #2. It's wishful thinking, but I really hope it happens.

[Gator Bait]

I don't agree. I think Saunders was hired to coach Arenas/Butler/Jamison as a more vet group who was already making the playoffs. You could say the same thing about a number of younger guys making the same mistakes. When that happens I ask "What are they doing in practice?" because I simply don't believe Flip is putting in the work.

I agree with you on the coaching part....flip was definitely brought in to coach a veteran team....and I also agree that he is a sorry coach in general....but that still doesn't excuse Javale's excessive goal-tends and the foul line dunk (attempt)

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IMO, doesn't matter if he manned up or not, he has a red flag just as Selby does. I think your viewpoint when talking about Selby/Thompson is a bit hypocritical.

Moving on...I do agree with you in that if the Wizards move McGee for the #2, they must not see his ceiling being too much higher. Personally, I have a hard time believing that they'd leave a huge void at the 5 just to take Williams who is a 3/4 tweener. But this is just me on the outside looking in. Unless there are absolutely no takers for Blatche, I would think he would be the first guy moved off this roster. The fact that he was left out of the whole "rebranding" promo is curious....he already messed up once this offseason w. his "Lapdance Tuesdays" promotion. I hope we can find a taker for him...and use HIM as bait to move up to #2. It's wishful thinking, but I really hope it happens.

first of all....not sure how you can't see the difference between a guy smoking weed and owning up to his mistake and a guy making bad decision after bad decision and running away from his mistakes?

second...Williams isn't a tweener...he is a legit PF.

third....Blatche has very little trade value...McGee is being spoken of as trade bait because he holds more value than Blatche. I think we'd jump at the chance to trade Blatche to get an asset back, but i don't think the team is going to just dump him.

[RonArtest15]

In thinking about it....if they do move McGee for the #2, how aggressive do you think the Wizards would be to package Blatch/#6 to move up to potentially get Kanter? It's a pipe dream...but wow....if that's the case, I might be on board with that. McGee is due for a raise, and I dunno how much the Wizards are willing to offer...also w. the hard cap coming up.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Just heard on 980 that the Wiz are supposedly offering Javale McGee, #6 and #18 for Minnesota's pick.

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Meanwhile, the Wizards' brass is heading over to Italy this weekend to watch the Adidas Eurocamp in Treviso, where they'll get a good look at guys like Jonas Valanciunas, Jan Vesely and Bismack Biyombo. Here's what's interesting, though. According to Jonathan Givony of Draft Express, the Wizards have joined Toronto and Utah to watch Jan Vesely in the Serbian League Finals prior to the camp. (As to who, specifically, my understanding is Ernie Grunfeld is back here watching the workouts at Verizon Center and assistant GM Tommy Sheppard is in Italy. Also, Michael Lee says we should "keep an eye" on the Vesely thing). Tomorrow, five teams (Toronto, Detroit, Utah, Charlotte and Golden State) are going to Spain to watch Bismack Biyombo conduct a private workout, but Washington is not among them, according to Givony.

That's a bit odd. Of course, the Wizards, and everyone else, will see Biyombo at the camp. But maybe this means something.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/

[RonArtest15]

I agree with you on the coaching part....flip was definitely brought in to coach a veteran team....and I also agree that he is a sorry coach in general....but that still doesn't excuse Javale's excessive goal-tends and the foul line dunk (attempt)

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first of all....not sure how you can't see the difference between a guy smoking weed and owning up to his mistake and a guy making bad decision after bad decision and running away from his mistakes?

second...Williams isn't a tweener...he is a legit PF.

third....Blatche has very little trade value...McGee is being spoken of as trade bait because he holds more value than Blatche. I think we'd jump at the chance to trade Blatche to get an asset back, but i don't think the team is going to just dump him.

First...your viewpoint of the two is hypocritical. You're picking on Selby for missing a team dinner when he had already bolted from school. On top of it all, he didn't want to be at Kansas in the first place. Dude made his intentions clear about being one-and-done from the moment he signed his LOI. Yeah, his recruitment was shady...but so what? Dismissing Thompson's arrest because he "manned up" (what else was he supposed to do?), is weak IMO. How many top athletes who have had a drug bust over the years show some sort of contrition in the wake of their arrests? Most of them. I don't get why he should be getting props over Selby when they both have red flags. Whatever....we'll have to agree to disagree.

Second...

“I’m not a power forward. I’m a small forward who can play the 4,” Williams said. “Whoever picks me will find that out. I’m not a 4, I’m a 3.”

Williams' quote from 5/19

http://cavs.ohio.com/2011/05/derrick...small-forward/

"Legit" PF...I think not.

Third...I want Blatche gone. I've made my feelings known about him on here plenty of times. No matter what the return, it would be addition by subtraction. I don't need to get into it again, but he's a cancer.

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Just heard on 980 that the Wiz are supposedly offering Javale McGee, #6 and #18 for Minnesota's pick.

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http://www.bulletsforever.com/

WOW....that's a lot for the #2....we'd have to be getting back another asset.

[Warhead36]

That's way too much to move up just four spots in a weak draft. No thanks. I'd go as high as McGee and #18.

[Popeman38]

I think trading McGee is a mistake. He will continue to develop into a shot blocking 10-10 center. There just aren't that many quality 7' available.

[No Excuses]

Just heard on 980 that the Wiz are supposedly offering Javale McGee, #6 and #18 for Minnesota's pick.

I could see Ernie getting bent over this bad in a trade again.

I also know that 980 is full of **** so I don't believe this to be true. The T'Wolves aren't selling high. There isn't much of market for the #2 pick.

[Skin'emAlive]

So trading Mcgee will leave us with ZERO centers on this team. Ummm, how about no. And dont tell me Seraphin played well there.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

UPDATE: More Ford, in his latest mock draft: "Publicly, the team is claiming that they're likely to hang on to the pick. Privately, they're hoping that a team comes along and offers them an impact veteran -- someone such as Pau Gasol, Monta Ellis or even JaVale McGee -- for the pick."