Andrew Luck theory: After the bye, did Shanahan tank the Redskins season on purpose? Was there hidden purpose in the McNabb extension?

[KDawg]

Still, Dukes, the fact that he isn't even a definite to come out makes this entire theory a bit odd.

To top it off, if Carolina were going to pick a QB (I'm not sure they will) or Buffalo were to pick a QB (I'm not sure they will), why would they want to trade away a legit top of the line prospect with Luck for a 35 year old veteran? It makes no sense whatsoever.

[Dukes and Skins]

Still, Dukes, the fact that he isn't even a definite to come out makes this entire theory a bit odd.

To top it off, if Carolina were going to pick a QB (I'm not sure they will) or Buffalo were to pick a QB (I'm not sure they will), why would they want to trade away a legit top of the line prospect with Luck for a 35 year old veteran? It makes no sense whatsoever.

I dont think we'd trade McNabb to either team for the rights to the #1 pick. I see us doing something of trading up for that pick and giving them picks and maybe a player ala what the Jets did with the Browns in 2009 and then shipping McNabb off to Arizona or Minnesota for a pick and then bringing in a guy like Shaun Hill to start for 2011 while Luck learns the offense

[Dro89]

the only problem i have with this is if you shell out quickly to get him.. with the picks we give up how will we rebuild this HORRID defense? WR and Oline can be fixed in FA.. but the rest how would you fix it?

[ATLredskin]

No one is going to trade for Donovan McNabb to be their franchise quarterback. Anyone picking as early as Carolina, Buffalo, etc. are a lot more away than a quarterback, especially one who's going to be on the wrong side of 35 soon. If you have a shot at Andrew Luck, you take him. You don't trade him away for Donovan McNabb.

The 49ers should make that move...they automatically win the NFC West for 3 consecutive years

[KDawg]

I dont think we'd trade McNabb to either team for the rights to the #1 pick. I see us doing something of trading up for that pick and giving them picks and maybe a player ala what the Jets did with the Browns in 2009 and then shipping McNabb off to Arizona or Minnesota for a pick and then bringing in a guy like Shaun Hill to start for 2011 while Luck learns the offense

Trading up like that is such a bad idea with all of the holes we have, man. We can't afford that.

If we had blown up the roster and went with all young talent, maybe we would have began the rebuilding process this way and perhaps we would have had a higher draft position so that we could be in position to take him.

We can't afford that kind of trade. It'll hamstring the rebuilding process for even longer.

[Hitman21ST]

You never know the intelligence and poise he shows already is that of a senior, he's some thing special and is some thing we might not see for a while at QB. We see very good QB's like Sam Bradford but we don't see great ones like Andrew Luck a lot

Touche'. However, you posted that he could be the next Peyton Manning. Even Peyton waited until his senior year to enter the draft. If he's this good after his sophomore year, imagine how good he will be after his senior year.

[KDawg]

The 49ers should make that move...they automatically win the NFC West for 3 consecutive years

At a current 4-8, there are six teams ahead of them in the draft. There's one tied and who knows if they win more games. Even if they wanted to make that move, they're in no position to make it with Luck still on the board.

[Dukes and Skins]

Trading up like that is such a bad idea with all of the holes we have, man. We can't afford that.

If we had blown up the roster and went with all young talent, maybe we would have began the rebuilding process this way and perhaps we would have had a higher draft position so that we could be in position to take him.

We can't afford that kind of trade. It'll hamstring the rebuilding process for even longer.

No I understand that but I look to what you stated in the FA thread you created KDawg(btw that was great stuff ). We have a chance here to fix a hell of a lot of needs in this FA class especially on the OL. We aren't going to compete soon and everyone knows that we can make that move IMO to trade up if we go in FA and get 2 guys I'd target heavily. Ryan Kalil and Davin Joseph. We get those guys we have a hell of a better OL and then can afford to move up for Luck. With the D side of the ball the team is better off looking towards the middle to late rounds with a lot of DE prospects being available and the NT prospects being a lot of late round type guys.

I see your point though KDawg and it makes sense but I also see Luck as someone you would be lucky to have on the team no pun intended

[Hitman21ST]

I see your point though KDawg and it makes sense but I also see Luck as someone you would be lucky to have on the team no pun intended

Dammit Dukes, now I'll be hearing that everywhere up until the draft happens.

[Dukes and Skins]

Dammit Dukes, now I'll be hearing that everywhere up until the draft happens.

I didn't mean to Hitman I just noticed it after I posted it

[ATLredskin]

At a current 4-8, there are six teams ahead of them in the draft. There's one tied and who knows if they win more games. Even if they wanted to make that move, they're in no position to make it with Luck still on the board.

They are going to make a mistake and draft Locker since Luck will be off the board. They should trade for McNabb and draft Prince.

[KDawg]

I see your point though KDawg and it makes sense but I also see Luck as someone you would be lucky to have on the team no pun intended

This thought applies to all teams. Why would anyone pass on the kid in order to trade for draft picks later in this draft/the next couple drafts?

It would be a gigantic error. If you're in the market for a QB, you have to take him. Our only hope would be that Carolina or Buffalo wouldn't want him... But I don't see either of these teams passing on Luck if he fell in their laps.

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They are going to make a mistake and draft Locker since Luck will be off the board. They should trade for McNabb and draft Prince.

What does that have to do with this thread? And why would we trade McNabb to San Fran. for their pick when Luck is off the board?

[Dukes and Skins]

This thought applies to all teams. Why would anyone pass on the kid in order to trade for draft picks later in this draft/the next couple drafts?

It would be a gigantic error. If you're in the market for a QB, you have to take him. Our only hope would be that Carolina or Buffalo wouldn't want him... But I don't see either of these teams passing on Luck if he fell in their laps.

Carolina no but Buffalo you never know, they are the ones who passed up on OL help and help in other areas for Spiller. They maybe are the most confusing team to understand when it comes to picks.

I wouldn't pass on him but a team like Cincy could since they still have Palmer and the Brown family could still want him to prove his worth the money they paid him. Carolina wouldn't pass on him though unless somehow someone says I'll take Clausen over him(big mistake IMO) our best bet though is that Detroit finishes #1 and we move up with them so they can get Patrick Peterson and we can get Luck

[Hitman21ST]

This thought applies to all teams. Why would anyone pass on the kid in order to trade for draft picks later in this draft/the next couple drafts?

It would be a gigantic error. If you're in the market for a QB, you have to take him. Our only hope would be that Carolina or Buffalo wouldn't want him... But I don't see either of these teams passing on Luck if he fell in their laps.

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What does that have to do with this thread? And why would we trade McNabb to San Fran. for their pick when Luck is off the board?

You'll have to forgive ATL, he just got out of his 2008 Redskins time machine.

[ATLredskin]

What does that have to do with this thread? And why would we trade McNabb to San Fran. for their pick when Luck is off the board?

I was responding to what you wrote...