Looks like Jeff Fisher beats Yince Young in Tenn......possible trade partners for more than Al? NOTHING ABOUT TRADING FOR VINCE YOUNG!

[fish]

from ESPN980's twitter.

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Fisher isn't looking to rebuild, he needs a Vet QB for his team. If he's staying and Vince is going, why not try to package McNabb, Albert and hell...even Andre Carter for their 4-3 Defense?

I have no idea what we would get, but I think it would be win/win for both teams and McNabb. He goes to a stable situation with a good running game and established system in place. Titans get that Vet QB Fisher would want, Albert back, and Andre who could go back to DE. Redskins hopefully get draft picks and everybody moves on.

GREAT idea!! GREAT post / thread!

[MadMonkey]

I guess Bud Adams realized that a good head coach is more valuable than an inconsistent QB with emotional problems.

BINGO!

And one that lost the respect of his locker room, eerily sounds like Haynesworth.

[Crazy Levi]

I jst DO NOT understand the 'get rid of Cooley' sentiments. We are trying to build a team, we do not have the luxury of expelling talent.

Letting Andre Carter go works because he is suited for a 4-3 - proven on 2 teams, ESPECIALLY if he goes in a package w/ Haynesworth - SHEESH! But getting rid of Cooley?? Really?

We are trying to build a young team. That makes Cooley expendable, especially if we can get a decent pick for him.

Also...doesn't he deserve a chance to win something for once in his life? Might be possible if we trade him to a good team.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I jst DO NOT understand the 'get rid of Cooley' sentiments. We are trying to build a team, we do not have the luxury of expelling talent.

But getting rid of Cooley?? Really?

Davis is one season from Free Agency and, even assuming you want to allocate major cap space to back-up TEs, he's almost certain to choose to leave for a starting opportunity in 2012.

So, the question isn't 'should we expel talent?', it's 'should we expel younger talent for nothing, or expel older talent for a decent trade package?'

[GhostofSparta]

If we could package Carter, Haynesworth, and McNabb to TN, I would love to see something along the lines of either this and next years 2nd rounders, or this year's 2nd and next year's 3rd. Having 2 2nds in this years draft would go a long way toward rebuilding with the ammo to trade back up into the bottom of the 1st, or trade one of our 2nds down for more picks, and as of right now would give us 9 total picks in next year's draft, incluidng 6 in the first 4 rounds.

We get the picks needed to start rebuilding, and Tenn gets their start DT back, a solid vet 4-3 DE who still has a few good years left, and a veteran QB to pair with a weapon like CJ. I don't know how likely that is, but it's not THAT far-fetched, is it?

[veteranskinsfan]

I do not want Vince Young and I do not want to lose Cooley. Trade someone on our defense, except Fletcher. Trade Rogers to any team that will take him.

[terrifNick21]

I do not want Vince Young and I do not want to lose Cooley. Trade someone on our defense, except Fletcher. Trade Rogers to any team that will take him.

I agree.

Can't trade Rogers, though. He's going to be a free agent.

[CjSuAvE22]

Hasnt anyone realized that on THIS team we have no one above 27 years of age with any kind of trade value...why would anybody trade anythig for Mcnabb when they know we are just going to release him.....and why would they trade for Haynesworth when most likely he will be let go as well...dont you all realize that our organization has devalued those two to the max..logically speaking the people with any kind of trade value on our team is Landry, Trent Williams, and Orakpo, nobody is giving up anything for Andre Carter Mcnabb or Haynesowrth...thats just the god honest truth and im the biggest skins homer there is I even betted a friend Rogers would get 5 INT's this year....but I have finally jump shipped and realize there is nobody on the team minus the three i mentioned worth trading for.

[MadMonkey]

If we could package Carter, Haynesworth, and McNabb to TN, I would love to see something along the lines of either this and next years 2nd rounders, or this year's 2nd and next year's 3rd. Having 2 2nds in this years draft would go a long way toward rebuilding with the ammo to trade back up into the bottom of the 1st, or trade one of our 2nds down for more picks, and as of right now would give us 9 total picks in next year's draft, incluidng 6 in the first 4 rounds.

We get the picks needed to start rebuilding, and Tenn gets their start DT back, a solid vet 4-3 DE who still has a few good years left, and a veteran QB to pair with a weapon like CJ. I don't know how likely that is, but it's not THAT far-fetched, is it?

Actually I don't think that's far fetched at all, Carter could be a nice replacement for Vandenbosch and Mcnabb would give them a solid leader at the QB spot they haven't had since Collins was the starter, and from what I understand Collins may be looking to retire this year so basically they will need 2 QB's.

[skinsince72]

I'm glad to see coaches taking back this league from prima donna players.

[tml6157]

You can pencil in Tennessee for a QB in the 1st now

[Mad Mike]

from ESPN980's twitter.

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Fisher isn't looking to rebuild, he needs a Vet QB for his team. If he's staying and Vince is going, why not try to package McNabb, Albert and hell...even Andre Carter for their 4-3 Defense?

I have no idea what we would get, but I think it would be win/win for both teams and McNabb. He goes to a stable situation with a good running game and established system in place. Titans get that Vet QB Fisher would want, Albert back, and Andre who could go back to DE. Redskins hopefully get draft picks and everybody moves on.

Yeah, as I understand it, if Fisher doesn't have a good season next year he's out as well. That kind of forces them to look for a vet QB. A three man trade seems unlikely but who knows.

[tml6157]

If you are going to trade a TE you trade Davis. He is younger and a FA after the year. Even if we trade Cooley and use him there is no certainty that Davis would resign here. You go from having a pro bowl TE and a young upcoming one to none.

[fish]

Davis is one season from Free Agency and, even assuming you want to allocate major cap space to back-up TEs, he's almost certain to choose to leave for a starting opportunity in 2012.

So, the question isn't 'should we expel talent?', it's 'should we expel younger talent for nothing, or expel older talent for a decent trade package?'

OK, I guess I understand the sentiment now - still not sure if I agree with it regarding Cooley. If we are concerned about losing Davis, then let's sign him NOW. A "big, fat" contract now quickly becomes a normal, standard contract in 2 or 3 seasons.

I think we are also trying to build a team with depth. One of the most significant factors contributing to a successful or unsuccessful season is injury and how well a team can survive when, not if, injuries come.

I think on a talent barren team we should not be trading away any proven performers and I consider #47 a proven performer.

Of course I guess it comes down to what a 'good' trade / draft pick' would be considered. In today's NFL, not too many teams will give away too high draft picks. Also it seems like most teams these days have that bad ass TE, therefore decreasing any potential trade value I think we would get on the open market for Cooley.

Also, I saw quite a bit more use of the TE once McNabb was benched - assuming the coaching staff philosophically has big plans for the TE position - admittedly an assumption on my part.

BOTTOMLINE - I say keep Cooley - unless we can get a 1st and 2nd round or two 1st round picks!

[HigSkin]

The statement from Adams was interesting...

"I've informed our GM to begin identifying the next QB for our franchise."