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    13.7 billion years!




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    NASA's Hubble Finds Most Distant Galaxy Candidate Ever Seen in Universe

    Astronomers have pushed NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to its limits by finding what is likely to be the most distant object ever seen in the universe. The object's light traveled 13.2 billion years to reach Hubble, roughly 150 million years longer than the previous record holder. The age of the universe is approximately 13.7 billion years.

    The tiny, dim object is a compact galaxy of blue stars that existed 480 million years after the big bang. More than 100 such mini-galaxies would be needed to make up our Milky Way. The new research offers surprising evidence that the rate of star birth in the early universe grew dramatically, increasing by about a factor of 10 from 480 million years to 650 million years after the big bang.


    The farthest and one of the very earliest galaxies ever seen in the universe appears as a faint red blob in this ultra-deep–field exposure taken with NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. This is the deepest infrared image taken of the universe. Based on the object's color, astronomers believe it is 13.2 billion light-years away. (Credit: NASA, ESA, G. Illingworth (University of California, Santa Cruz), R. Bouwens (University of California, Santa Cruz, and Leiden University), and the HUDF09 Team)

    "NASA continues to reach for new heights, and this latest Hubble discovery will deepen our understanding of the universe and benefit generations to come,” said NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, who was the pilot of the space shuttle mission that carried Hubble to orbit. “We could only dream when we launched Hubble more than 20 years ago that it would have the ability to make these types of groundbreaking discoveries and rewrite textbooks.”

    Astronomers don't know exactly when the first stars appeared in the universe, but every step farther from Earth takes them deeper into the early formative years when stars and galaxies began to emerge in the aftermath of the big bang.

    "These observations provide us with our best insights yet into the earlier primeval objects that have yet to be found," said Rychard Bouwens of the University of Leiden in the Netherlands. Bouwens and Illingworth report the discovery in the Jan. 27 issue of the British science journal Nature.

    This observation was made with the Wide Field Camera 3 starting just a few months after it was installed in the observatory in May 2009, during the last NASA space shuttle servicing mission to Hubble. After more than a year of detailed observations and analysis, the object was positively identified in the camera's Hubble Ultra Deep Field-Infrared data taken in the late summers of 2009 and 2010.

    The object appears as a faint dot of starlight in the Hubble exposures. It is too young and too small to have the familiar spiral shape that is characteristic of galaxies in the local universe. Although its individual stars can't be resolved by Hubble, the evidence suggests this is a compact galaxy of hot stars formed more than 100-to-200 million years earlier from gas trapped in a pocket of dark matter.

    "We're peering into an era where big changes are afoot," said Garth Illingworth of the University of California at Santa Cruz. "The rapid rate at which the star birth is changing tells us if we go a little further back in time we're going to see even more dramatic changes, closer to when the first galaxies were just starting to form."

    The proto-galaxy is only visible at the farthest infrared wavelengths observable by Hubble. Observations of earlier times, when the first stars and galaxies were forming, will require Hubble’s successor, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST).

    The hypothesized hierarchical growth of galaxies -- from stellar clumps to majestic spirals and ellipticals -- didn't become evident until the Hubble deep field exposures. The first 500 million years of the universe's existence, from a z of 1000 to 10, is the missing chapter in the hierarchical growth of galaxies. It's not clear how the universe assembled structure out of a darkening, cooling fireball of the big bang. As with a developing embryo, astronomers know there must have been an early period of rapid changes that would set the initial conditions to make the universe of galaxies what it is today.

    "After 20 years of opening our eyes to the universe around us, Hubble continues to awe and surprise astronomers," said Jon Morse, NASA's Astrophysics Division director at the agency's headquarters in Washington. "It now offers a tantalizing look at the very edge of the known universe -- a frontier NASA strives to explore."

    Hubble is a project of international cooperation between NASA and the European Space Agency. NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., manages the telescope. The Space Telescope Science Institute (STScI) conducts Hubble science operations. STScI is operated for NASA by the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy, Inc., in Washington.

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    Reading this type of story always makes my mind do flips...I can't fathom something being that far away, it makes my head want to explode.

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    So, we can almost see the big bang. Seriously, it took the light 13.2 billion years to travel to us, and the universe is 13.7 billion years old. We are damn close to actually just seeing what happened first. WTF????
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    Reading this type of story always makes my mind do flips...I can't fathom something being that far away, it makes my head want to explode.

    Same here. Basically, anytime I start reading up on space or space news and am forced to wrap my head around where we truly stand in the grand scheme of things, it blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan View Post
    So, we can almost see the big bang. Seriously, it took the light 13.2 billion years to travel to us, and the universe is 13.7 billion years old. We are damn close to actually just seeing what happened first. WTF????
    What happens when we see "what happened first"...and then we see something else that happened before that? lol
    Last edited by Califan007; January-26th-2011 at 01:54 PM.

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    It's pretty sweet that the hubble is still so useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan View Post
    So, we can almost see the big bang. Seriously, it took the light 13.2 billion years to travel to us, and the universe is 13.7 billion years old. We are damn close to actually just seeing what happened first. WTF????
    That's the other thing that I can't handle...that when we're looking at these distant stars/planets/universes, we're actually looking back in time. Unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    That's the other thing that I can't handle...that when we're looking at these distant stars/planets/universes, we're actually looking back in time. Unreal.
    I know. It sounds unpossible!
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    How the hell is it possible to see backwards in time? If we set one of these things 600 light years back would we see Earth with Columbus sailing the Ocean blue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    How the hell is it possible to see backwards in time? If we set one of these things 600 light years back would we see Earth with Columbus sailing the Ocean blue?
    We're not REALLY seeing back in time, but the light of some of these stars takes so long to travel here (speed of light) that what we see currently might not actually exist anymore. Your question is why it hurts my brain to think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    How the hell is it possible to see backwards in time? If we set one of these things 600 light years back would we see Earth with Columbus sailing the Ocean blue?
    Well it would have have to have be set up around a planet around 600 light years away, but yeah if they knew when and where to look and had enough magnification and the sky was clear you'd be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    We're not REALLY seeing back in time, but the light of some of these stars takes so long to travel here (speed of light) that what we see currently might not actually exist anymore. Your question is why it hurts my brain to think about it.
    Because of the speed restriction on light you are seeing things as they were in their past. If that's not looking back in time, not sure what is.
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    Default Re: Nasa.gov: NASA's Hubble Finds Most Distant Galaxy Candidate Ever Seen in Universe

    I can talk football all day.

    I can even go into some other topics and be relatively knowledgable. Hell, I could learn about a lot of things and carry on a good conversation... But I don't understand this light and speed of light mumbo jumbo at all.

    Can we say "Meat head"?

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    Just think of it as seeing an emission of light. That's all your eyes or a telescope are really doing. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second or 5,865,696,000,000 miles in a year. The distances are just so vast in space that in can take huge amounts of time to reach earth. If anything it should give you pause as to how HUGE the astronomical distances really are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Califan007 View Post
    What happens when we see "what happened first"...and then we see something else that happened before that? lol
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    I think it's easier to think of the sun first.

    I believe it takes seven minutes for the suns light to reach earth. So in theory, if the sun were to "turn off", it would take us seven minutes to freeze and be in darkness and all that. This is because the heat and light would still be traveling for those seven minutes.

    These galaxies are so far away, that instead of seven minutes were talking about billions of years. So it isn't that the galaxy is in the past, it is that the galaxy is so far away that we can't see it in it's present state.

    Which begs the question. If aliens are out there, and turn their scopes at us, can they see us? Ifnthey are farther than a few thousand light years away, the may not see humans at all.

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