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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    If the owners want to take their ball and go home, let them. They're prepared and capable of surviving it financially.

    The players will cave because they're myopic and terrible with money. Frankly, I wouldn't care that the players are forced to make concessions because, as I said above, it's the owners' ball they're playing with. I'm glad the players use their physical gifts and work ethic to earn every single penny they can because that's capitalism, but it's a long time coming that the NFL self-adjusts to be in greater favor of the people who are making the investment that allows them to do so.

    As for health insurance, there's no obligation to pay out for people who aren't working for you. As said ad nauseum in this thread, "Go buy some like the rest of us."

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Maybe Obama-Care can take care of them???

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSkins View Post
    As for health insurance, there's no obligation to pay out for people who aren't working for you.
    According to Reed this is not the case. You make the opening day roster, you get health benefits for a year. So LJ is still given health insurance even though he's long gone and not an employee of the Redskins, or any other team, right now.

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    The players will have the ability to purchase the insurance monthly via COBRA for 18 months, I did it when I was unemployed and it cost $1,200 per month for my family and I. By the way, I made a tiny fraction of what Reed makes so if I was able to handle it for 7 months it shouldn't be too difficult for him to handle. This is still Millionaires battling Billionaires, not much sympathy for either side from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiggosMohawk View Post
    According to Reed this is not the case. You make the opening day roster, you get health benefits for a year. So LJ is still given health insurance even though he's long gone and not an employee of the Redskins, or any other team, right now.
    Are you saying that the owners are breaking some sort of law? I think we can all understand that the owners are acting differently this year than in the past. That's not really up for debate since, in a typical football year, the players would still be covered. However, the owners are locking out the players...so why would they insure people who won't be performing work? They won't be attending meetings, off-season activities, etc.
    "Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiggosMohawk View Post
    According to Reed this is not the case. You make the opening day roster, you get health benefits for a year. So LJ is still given health insurance even though he's long gone and not an employee of the Redskins, or any other team, right now.
    Yes, but is this a provision of the current CBA? If so, that agreement ends on March 4 and the owners are no longer obligated to abide by it's terms. And the union knew this and should have prepared the players.

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiggosMohawk View Post
    According to Reed this is not the case. You make the opening day roster, you get health benefits for a year. So LJ is still given health insurance even though he's long gone and not an employee of the Redskins, or any other team, right now.
    According to Reed, "normally" you have coverage for a calendar year. Normally being a year in which a negotiated CBA is in place. This has been no "normal" year. There was no salary cap, nor was there a salary floor. This has been a known by product of not having CBA. Reed is toeing the company line, but if he really didn't know this was going to happen he has 2 people to blame: 1) the head of the NFLPA, and 2) his teams player rep. Seeing as how the NFLPA told players to start saving money ~18 months ago, methinks Reed is simply toeing the line like a good union member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeman38 View Post
    According to Reed, "normally" you have coverage for a calendar year. Normally being a year in which a negotiated CBA is in place. This has been no "normal" year. There was no salary cap, nor was there a salary floor. This has been a known by product of not having CBA. Reed is toeing the company line, but if he really didn't know this was going to happen he has 2 people to blame: 1) the head of the NFLPA, and 2) his teams player rep. Seeing as how the NFLPA told players to start saving money ~18 months ago, methinks Reed is simply toeing the line like a good union member.
    Good post...I don't want any of my comments in this thread to seem like I'm bashing Doughty. He's doing what he should be doing. But, so are the owners.
    "Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by authentic View Post
    Problem is that they may not want to since they aren't recieving a check. What you're saying makes logical sense, but they may be saying "Forget That i'm not paying for anything!"

    Hard to have sympathy for someone who can afford, but refuses to pay for healthcare, just because their current healthcare plan is ending.

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Cry me a river. These guys make bazillions of dollars. Let them purchase their own health insurance.

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeman38 View Post
    According to Reed, "normally" you have coverage for a calendar year. Normally being a year in which a negotiated CBA is in place. This has been no "normal" year. There was no salary cap, nor was there a salary floor. This has been a known by product of not having CBA. Reed is toeing the company line, but if he really didn't know this was going to happen he has 2 people to blame: 1) the head of the NFLPA, and 2) his teams player rep. Seeing as how the NFLPA told players to start saving money ~18 months ago, methinks Reed is simply toeing the line like a good union member.
    You responded better than I ever could. And more politely!

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    Default Re: Reed Doughty Facebook page - The owners have decided not to continue players health insurance past march 4.

    Welcome to America! Where health insurance is reserved only an employed heatlhy person, with a healthy family.

    You would think with our insane govt spending we could afford health insurance for all. Instead, the sickest limp into the emergency room and you pay for it at the end of the day, anyway. Why the charade?

    Sorry but Reed just has an audience, there are millions like him in our country, whose tweets go unheard since they cant afford an internet connection.
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