Jay Glazer: Eagles get Jason Babin

[Westbrook36]

When someone says 17m guaranteed and it is actually 6m, that isn't making up numbers?

[SWFLSkins]

Jeff Lurie the new Dan Snyder?

[Westbrook36]

Dream Team II?

[rockfan7224]

Jeff Lurie the new Dan Snyder?

More like the new Vinnie Cerrato. Cap hell definitely pending. How are they going to afford Vicks's and DeSean's contracts?

[Westbrook36]

Vick counts 16m against the cap because he was franchised so a long term deal helps out the Eagles. One thing to consider is that all these "big" moves have been at what the Eagles wanted to pay and have been largely looked at by outsiders as inexpensive. Nnamdi took a 6m per year paycut to play for the Eagles. Babin and Jenkins got 5m per year. For better than average DEs in a dry FA DE market, that is surprising. VY signed for 5m which is a low number for an experienced backup QB.

I think the elephant in the room that none of you want to talk about is the effect that Vick has on luring players to Philthy. He is a rock star in the NFL community. You have rankings of players by the media, and by fans on messageboards, then you have how players feel. They love MV and think he is the messiah.

[dockeryfan]

He is a rock star in the NFL community. They love MV and think he is the messiah.

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[In The Barrel]

I just read that the Eagles still have around 8+ Million in cap. PLUS under the new CBA you can take a $3.5 Million dollar "loan" to resign vets. That is plenty of money to sign Jackson to a S. Holmes type deal, and get another MLB in FA. We are fine and plus we have 11 picks again in 2012 - 2 second rounders and possibly a 3rd if hey trade Asante ( Panthers are interested). With 3 2nd round picks they could move up in the draft and get a young stud DE next year. Admit it Skins fans - they are one of the best teams at managing their Cap and Draft picks..yea again no Super Bowl - but working hard and smart at it counts and gets them closer than most teams in the NFC.

[HailGreen28]

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I just read that the Eagles still have around 8+ Million in cap. PLUS under the new CBA you can take a $3.5 Million dollar "loan" to resign vets. That is plenty of money to sign Jackson to a S. Holmes type deal, and get another MLB in FA. We are fine and plus we have 11 picks again in 2012 - 2 second rounders and possibly a 3rd if hey trade Asante ( Panthers are interested). With 3 2nd round picks they could move up in the draft and get a young stud DE next year. Admit it Skins fans - they are one of the best teams at managing their Cap and Draft picks..yea again no Super Bowl - but working hard and smart at it counts and gets them closer than most teams in the NFC.

Counts for what?

[In The Barrel]

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Counts for what?

Counts for "Being In The Hunt" as they say. Also these moves, as you might have heard, is allowing the Eagles to bring in Pro Bowl talent cheaper than the next guy. Players ( like Nnamdi and jenkins ) said they left money on the table because they wanted to come to the Eagles and play with Vick and the "Young Guns" ( all Draft Picks) and for the coaches and FO. I would like to hear a player say they are coming to the Skins for the those reasons and not the big payday. Ship is turning but still very far away. Thats why it "Counts"..

[dockeryfan]

Counts for "Being In The Hunt" as they say. Also these moves, as you might have heard, is allowing the Eagles to bring in Pro Bowl talent cheaper than the next guy.

Yeah OK. It's fun to be excited about big name FA acquisitions. Skins fans know all about expectations. But eaglefan knows the same thing. Last time they really went out and got something was 2004 with Kearse and TO.

TO was great talent wise but a bad fit personality wise. Kearse was just a bust.

[pointyfootball]

Yeah OK. It's fun to be excited about big name FA acquisitions. Skins fans know all about expectations. But eaglefan knows the same thing. Last time they really went out and got something was 2004 with Kearse and TO.

TO was great talent wise but a bad fit personality wise. Kearse was just a bust.

Kearse & TO were two main contributors to them getting to the SB though, wouldn't you agree?

[dockeryfan]

Kearse & TO were two main contributors to them getting to the SB though, wouldn't you agree?

TO yes. Kearse, absolutely not. People were expecting him to maybe have some difficulty coming to a new system. When 2005 came, lots of people were hoping he would grow as a player. He never did. So 2004? No.

[pointyfootball]

TO yes. Kearse, absolutely not. People were expecting him to maybe have some difficulty coming to a new system. When 2005 came, lots of people were hoping he would grow as a player. He never did. So 2004? No.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I felt like JK (and Burgess) had good playoffs, although was controlled in SB, with getting pressure on QBs they faced.

[dockeryfan]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I felt like JK (and Burgess) had good playoffs, although was controlled in SB, with getting pressure on QBs they faced.

That's fine. I thought the change in the season was when Trotter regained his starting role. I could be remembering it wrong, I suppose.

[Sowers]

Kearse has 7.5 sacks 2 FF and 1fr that 2004 year... I think he contributed a ton...