Good point buzz. Even if there were a desire for government to emulate a big corporation fully (and to me there shouldn't be) it can't be done. They are two different animals. So that part of the topic suggests it's a matter of deciding what desirable characteristics we might want to take from the private sector and try to use. It's a big part of my OP topic to point out that a "big" management population (government if you will) in a really big corporation OR just a big organization (take US Army, Alcoholics Anonymous, or the Red Cross for example) is not an inherently bad deal in and of itself, and "small" is not necessarily desirable or even possible. In a number of our overworn political mantras, the very phrases so fervently used are seriously off-target.