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    Alot of people on here are faulting Hasslet for calling that all out blitz on 3rd and 21, while I agree that it was a terrible call, the defense was pretty darn good the majority of the game. What I dont understand is why Kyle refuses to use screens and draws?

    Rob Ryan brings the house most plays, and it was no different last night. He runs a very aggressive defense, very similar to our own. I found myself SCREAMING at the TV last night for a slip screen to Hightower/Helu, I felt like it was there all night. The one screen I remember us running was a 15 yard pickup on the last drive. Then I started thinking about the first 2 games, every screen I remember us running has been pretty successful. There was one vs the Giants to Hightower that got us a 1st and goal, then the big one to Helu for 33 yards. But I dont remember more then 1 or 2 per game.

    Why does'nt Kyle run more screens? When I look around at different offenses, I feel like other teams utilize the screen so much more often then we do. Philly, Bmore, NYG, NE, CHI...these teams all run alot of screens. Hell, Philly runs them all the time. Am I missing something as to why we dont?

    Tough game last night, but if beat the Cardinals this week, Ill take 3-1. Huge difference between 2-2 and 3-1 though. BIG GAME!
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    Default Re: Kyles play calling vs Dallas

    if you run it too often teams begin to anticipate when you'll do it, and then they don't work

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    Though I wish they came away with the win, I still thought Redskins played a hard fought game against a division rival. These two teams face each other twice a season and they generally split wins. Skins fans know that games between these two, more often than not, are close games. In most cases, like last night, down to the wire. It can go either way. Though there were a couple of costly mistakes (which happens during hard fought games), the Redskins fought until the end. I was very proud of the defense. They kept Dallas out of the endzone and kept our team in the game. I'm not going to second-guess the play-calling by the coaches on either side because, bottom-line, it's up to the players to execute the plays. And if they do it successfully, we say the coaches are great. If they don't execute, then we question the play calling. Can't have it both ways. My opinion is that the Redskins coaches are always going to come up with gameplans that will put this team in the best possible position to win, including last night. It was a good game. I tip my hat to the Cowboys for their win last night, however when they come to Fedex Field in Landover, MD, they are gonna get whupped! No doubt in mind on that score.

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    The playcalling was horrendous last night. Kyle is a big, big part of the problem on offense.

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    Playcalling was awful last night for sure. My biggest problem was they didnt utilize the playaction enough and didnt keep the defense on their toes. On the grossman interception, i was screaming at the TV when the rb (cant remember if it was hightower or helu) motioned out of the backfield to a wr position. It was a running situation and as soon as they motioned them out of the backfield, the LB's dropped about10 yards into the secondary to cover the pass and what do you know? Interception by a linebacker cheating back and reading grossman's eyes. You have to keep the defense guessing, and especially in a situation where dallas thinks its going to be a run.

    If you keep the rb in the backfield there, the LB's wouldnt have been able to cheat back 10 yards pre-snap. Little things like this drove me nuts all night
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    Default Re: Kyles play calling vs Dallas

    I felt as there was no rhythm or identity for the entire offensive tenure. It was frustrating.

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    My biggest play calling gripe is that after the running game moved the ball down the field on the TD drive in the late 3rd, Kyle called three passes on the next drive. I thought we blew an opportunity to wear the D down, instead the three and out wore our D down and transferred Mo. And as we all know, it's not like Kyle's putting the game in Tom Brady's hands when calling all those pass plays.

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    Kyle seems in over his head to me. I know about the success in Houston, but it's not like they struggled when Kubiak took over. The fact that he had the temerity to call a second short yardage run to Cooley really tells me he's either overthinking things or has no imagination whatsoever. He needs to be better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkFan8 View Post
    Kyle seems in over his head to me. I know about the success in Houston, but it's not like they struggled when Kubiak took over. The fact that he had the temerity to call a second short yardage run to Cooley really tells me he's either overthinking things or has no imagination whatsoever. He needs to be better.
    Exactly!

    The running play to Cooley was a nice surprise.. But then we run it again??? C'mon Kyle.. The man has NEVER run the ball in the 8 years he's been in the NFL and we give it to him on 3rd and 1 twice in the same game? lol

    The shovel pass to Moss on the first drive at the 30yd line was a horrible call. That play is supposed to be done on the goal line when the defense is aggressive. We're at the 30 freakin yard line on the first drive of the game. The defense is still in observation mode trying to figure us out. They arnt being aggressive on the first drive... Just a horrible call.

    Now noone is perfect and there's going to be some bad play calls in a game. But Mike Shanahan allowed both his coordinators to keep Dallas in the game by calling a very bad game!!
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    I don't believe for one second that Kyle doesn't know how to call a proper NFL gameplan. What I believe is that he's hampered in what he feels like he can gameplan because Rex is the QB. It's very clear to me they are trying to tailor a gameplan to Rex's weaknesses. Do you think he would be calling the same plays with Matt Schaub at QB? Until we find a solution at QB we can expect more of the same limited offense.

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    Hopefully we beat the Rams also.

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    I don't know. I thought it was terrible last night too but after sleeping on it, I am reconsidering.

    Even with a lead late, we had balance in our playcalling. The problem is, we simply don't have a lot of talent on offense. Our runs were going for 2 yards a pop and our receivers weren't getting open.

    If we just run run run and punt, people would blast Kyle for being conservative. He tries to balance the playcalling, but we simply did not execute.

    I do think we should have called more screen passes, but other than that I don't think playcalling itself was that bad. It's hard to tell really if it's a good or bad play if the players are simply not executing.
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    that trick shovel pass to moss was just retarded. cooley was supposed to block on the edge but he turned around like he was expecting a pass, and left his man unblocked. i dont remember any naked bootlegs, which weve had success with, i guess they were scared of ware blowing them up. not sure why we didnt throw more bombs since their secondary was banged up. and why do our qb's seem to be the only ones in the nfl that never audible?
    **** it, I'm going deep.

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    I think the biggest problem was our offense giving the Cowboys so much time in between every play. They were able to keep their defense fresh all night as a result!

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    Default Re: Kyles play calling vs Dallas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffro View Post
    I don't believe for one second that Kyle doesn't know how to call a proper NFL gameplan. What I believe is that he's hampered in what he feels like he can gameplan because Rex is the QB. It's very clear to me they are trying to tailor a gameplan to Rex's weaknesses. Do you think he would be calling the same plays with Matt Schaub at QB? Until we find a solution at QB we can expect more of the same limited offense.
    This.

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