Romney is John Kerry on steroids.
I do support Obama and while I haven't been happy with everything, I don't think he is a phony at all.
I don't think there is a Republican I would likely vote for in this field, but if Huntsman won, I think he would be a good president.
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Not disliking him is different from voting for him. He's a smart, very thoughtful guy that Dems view as being reasonable in certain area, but that they wouldn't vote for cause of his overall conservative record.
I think that most Dems dislike Romney simply because he has an R in front of his name. Claiming he is a phony is a way of justifying their own partisanship.
At the same time, you wont find many GOPers who will honestly tell you they dont like O because of the D in front of his name. And Im certain you would here some of them tell you the "reason" is really because he's a phony.
Huntsman is everyones guy right ow because A- he has no chance of winning and B- no one on the left actually knows what his platform is. Because if they did, they'd realize he is WAYYYY to the right of Mitt on most issues. If he somehow became the frontrunner, we'd here fake reasons why Dems wouldnt vote for him either.
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.Dream. Discover"
-- MARK TWAIN
" It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices"- Chief Justice John Roberts
I disagree with this part. I think most Dems would say if they disliked or wouldn't vote for a Republican if it was just about the views on issues. When Romney says things like he was worried about getting a pink slip...does anyone really believe that? That's the kind of thing that leads people to conclude he is a phony.
See this morning's interview with Matt Lauer as another example of why Mitt Romney is not well liked.
LAUER: “Are Americans with questions about the distribution of wealth and power in this country motivated by, in your words “envy.” Is it about jealousy/envy, or fairness?”
ROMNEY: "You know, I think it’s about envy. I think it’s about class warfare."
LAUER: Are there no fair questions about the distribution of wealth without it being seen as envy, though?
ROMNEY: I think it’s fine to talk about those things in quiet rooms and discussions about tax policy and the like. But the president has made it part of his campaign rally.
Just a strange response to Lauer's question. Talk about it in quiet rooms? Talk about it, but just don't do it loud enough so that the status quo would actually be forced to change.
And the thing is, I can't think of a worse guy to give this kind of argument than Mitt Romney. Somebody born on third base, who made the bulk of his money on the backs of firing workers, slashing their pensions, sending jobs overseas all in the name of efficiency. And somebody who won't release his tax returns because it's almost certain to show him paying a lower tax rate than most middle class Americans. There are many reasons not to like Mitt Romney and he just reinforces that perception/caricature of him almost everyday.
BTW, I heard a funny stat about Huntsman voters in New Hampshire. I think it was something like 51% of his voters approved of the job the Obama administration was doing.
Last edited by NoVaO; January-11th-2012 at 07:00 PM.
Lol @ "I think it's fine to talk about those things in quiet rooms"
Yes. Our country would be in much better shape if everyone was able to admit their own biases. Instead most people will lie and tell you that they "could" vote for the other side. But the reality is that they never would.
We all call ourselves independant, or moderate, or claim to like some candidate from the other side who either isnt running or isnt winning. McCain was every Democrats hero until he became the nominee.
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.Dream. Discover"
-- MARK TWAIN
" It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices"- Chief Justice John Roberts
No. Everyone (or at least most) are partisan, so EVERYONE is to blame.
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And Ive voted for Bill Nelson among others in FL.
McCain was the same guy, the difference is when he became the opposition, he became the enemy. So the few things that people on the left liked him for took a backseat to the core of his platform.
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.Dream. Discover"
-- MARK TWAIN
" It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices"- Chief Justice John Roberts
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