Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

For the last time, it's not rape.

It's just assault with a deadly weapon.

Jeez....relax, y'all.

[Teller]

Nice try, but nope. You got your outrage/hypocricy engine all boiling over before the anticipated target actually manifested itself. Now you have to deal with the inexorable blue balls of disappointment (until next time).

I'm glad I don't let you keep track of my interwebz points.

FWIW, you trail 1,186,412.6 to 1,185,996.28 on my scoreboard.

[Baculus]

Welp, any age is now fully in play.

For the right wing, any age has ALREADY been in play, going back to Obama's birth, and even before it. Heck, age has never stopped conservatives from attacking children, either, with Amy Carter and Chelsea Clinton two examples of this fact.

But are you now saying that the gloves are off? ROFL. For Pete's sake, where have you been since Obama became president?!

The responses I am seeing from my conservative compatriots is a bit confounding.

So no, I won't apologize for a guy who sought out Marxist professors being called a Marxist. I mean, hey, college-age kids should know more about who they actually are than grade schoolers, right?

I didn't expect you to apologize for anything, but at least take a basic course in ideology, because anyone who knows a little bit about Marxism would realize that Obama isn't practicing that form of socio-economics.

That's been my beef with right wingers: Their wholly inaccurate, ignorant slinging around of terms which have ACTUAL meanings.

As far as the other stuff, there's been plenty of blow back on that, as their should be, I just find it pretty hypocritical to be so appalled by one instance of lies and/or name calling, but fully embracing another. I guess it's our political climate though. Bull**** is fine, as long as it's not "my" guy we're bull****ting about.

According to this story and the witnesses who were involved, Mitt Romney acted like a bully. So what else do you expect us to call him? Do you think we are randomly calling him that?

Oh, BTW, I CONSTANTLY hear Obama called a "bully" by right wingers, but now you are distressed by the use of this term?

Give me a break.

How bout batterer? Battery in a lot of states is defined as something like: "physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature." (That's the exact definition in WV.) But then he was never charged, nor convicted, of anything. So even that's not wholly accurate. Maybe "moron" or "kid" would be more appropriate -- assuming he's still the same person he was in grade school. Are you?

I was never a bully, and by all indications Romney seems to be entirely disconnected from the rest of the population, as if he never learned empathy, a trait prevalent in sociopaths.

[DjTj]

So calling Obama a Muslim, or saying that he was born in Kenya is the greatest sin one can commit, but calling Romney a rapist is cool?

Just want to make sure I'm clear on the rules this time around.

Just so we're clear, not following Jesus Christ is a sin. Being born in Kenya is not sin. Rape is a sin.

[Baculus]

Here's another disturbing angle to the story (if it indeed happened): Romney's reaction to it. If he didn't remember his participation in the attack, then it says a lot about him, i.e., that such an attack wasn't even worthy of remembrance, and if he did remember then he doesn't have the fortitude to come clean about it.

[Teller]

But are you now saying that the gloves are off? ROFL. For Pete's sake, where have you been since Obama became president?!

Uh, on YOUR side vs. the bull****. The letter after the last name doesn't matter to me when it flies.

According to this story and the witnesses who were involved, Mitt Romney acted like a bully. So what else do you expect us to call him? Do you think we are randomly calling him that?

Oh, BTW, I CONSTANTLY hear Obama called a "bully" by right wingers, but now you are distressed by the use of this term?

Give me a break.

That would be an excellent point, y'know, if that's what I had said. I objected strongly to calling him a rapist. Would you argue with that?

I was never a bully, and by all indications Romney seems to be entirely disconnected from the rest of the population, as if he never learned empathy, a trait prevalent in sociopaths.

Well sure. That's why when most republicans are whole-heartedly opposed to Obamacare, he instituted a very similar program in Massachusetts. He clearly did that for political and financial gain, not because he cared about his constituents.

For the record, I oppose both programs, but I also believe both are well-intentioned.

[gbear]

I am sorry if I am way out in the weeds on this one. All I can say is the incident makes me incredibly uneasy. From the reactions of all on here, it's solely my personal radar going off.

Sorry, and please believe me I in no way intended to belittle rape only to point to the similarities in change of life's directions caused. The story of the actions after the event just ring too close to home.

Evidently, the cops wouldn't always be called today either. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...y.html?hpid=z6

[Dan T.]

Yeah gbear I don't agree with the "rapist" line of reasoning. I doubt Lauber's nascent homosexuality was even the primary reason for the attack - more his "differentness" from the 1950s norm.

That's not to minimize how traumatizing it may have been to him. If you read through the whole piece, the last line hints at the impact it may have had: "[Lauber] kept his hair blond until he died, said his sister Chris. “He never stopped bleaching it.”

[Koolblue13]

I can't believe we are splitting the hairs of a wig. The guy is such a scumbag and a liar. We are on such an unimpressive downward spiral of candidates it's sickening.

[Teller]

I am sorry if I am way out in the weeds on this one. All I can say is the incident makes me incredibly uneasy. From the reactions of all on here, it's solely my personal radar going off.

Sorry, and please believe me I in no way intended to belittle rape only to point to the similarities in change of life's directions caused. The story of the actions after the event just ring too close to home.

My wording in response was too harsh, and I apologize for that. Look, rape is a subject that stirs intense emotions; as it should. Frankly, I don't think anything else a human being can do is as heinous. Knowing you a little, I'd suspect you'd agree with that.

I understand where you were coming from, to an extent. I just respectfully disagree. And again, I apologize if my initial response seemed to lack the "respect" part.

[JMS]

I am sorry if I am way out in the weeds on this one. All I can say is the incident makes me incredibly uneasy. From the reactions of all on here, it's solely my personal radar going off.

Sorry, and please believe me I in no way intended to belittle rape only to point to the similarities in change of life's directions caused. The story of the actions after the event just ring too close to home.

Evidently, the cops wouldn't always be called today either. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...y.html?hpid=z6

I'm sorry, a punk Romney did something incredible mean and insensitive nearly 50 years ago and you think it reflects poorly on him today?

I shudder to think of my own worst moments from HS. I frankly think this is a non issue.

There is so much one can legitamately critize of both candidates, what they did in HS nearly 50 years ago is not among them.

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I can't believe we are splitting the hairs of a wig. The guy is such a scumbag and a liar. We are on such an unimpressive downward spiral of candidates it's sickening.

I read an argument such as this in 1980 when our choices were Carter, Reagan and 20 year congressional vet John Anderson, Probable turned out to be the strongest Political lineup of my lifetime.

[JimboDaMan]

Here's another disturbing angle to the story (if it indeed happened): Romney's reaction to it. If he didn't remember his participation in the attack, then it says a lot about him, i.e., that such an attack wasn't even worthy of remembrance, and if he did remember then he doesn't have the fortitude to come clean about it.

That's exact;y my problem with it. The incident stinks of rich-kid bully humiliating another kid who wasn't as secure a part of the "in" crowd. Often those people grow up to be thoughtful, considerate adults who are ashamed of such behavior and when confronted beg the forgiveness of their victims. That's not at all what I see in Mitt Romney and it disappoints me.

[Yusuf06]

So calling Obama a Muslim, or saying that he was born in Kenya is the greatest sin one can commit, but calling Romney a rapist is cool?

Just want to make sure I'm clear on the rules this time around.

I think the real issue with both of those characterizations is that they're simply not true. However unlike the blatant exaggeration of Romney as a rapist, the Obama stuff was just a pack of lies. There were witnesses to Romney's actions so they actually happened. However to my knowledge nobody has proven the birth certificate Obama produced to be a fake, nobody has observed him carrying a Quran around or making prayers facing Mecca or any of the other lies that constantly get thrown around to scare/motivate the willfully ignorant.

Here's another disturbing angle to the story (if it indeed happened): Romney's reaction to it. If he didn't remember his participation in the attack, then it says a lot about him, i.e., that such an attack wasn't even worthy of remembrance, and if he did remember then he doesn't have the fortitude to come clean about it.

I was content to blow this story off as a non-factor until I heard Romney's comments about it. That did make it an issue for me for precisely the reasons you cited. What a sorry sack of crap.

[ABQCOWBOY]

NBC Reports Romney Bully Story Labeled 'Factually Incorrect' By Family of Alleged Victim

At the end of a full report on Friday's NBC Today, based on a Washington Post hit piece that accused Mitt Romney of bullying of a gay high school classmate, correspondent Peter Alexander admitted the story may be false: "NBC News isn't naming the student who was allegedly bullied....Late last night, his sister told NBC News that his portrayal in the Washington Post story is 'factually incorrect'..."


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-dr...ct-family-alle

[Larry]

NBC Reports Romney Bully Story Labeled 'Factually Incorrect' By Family of Alleged Victim

At the end of a full report on Friday's NBC Today, based on a Washington Post hit piece that accused Mitt Romney of bullying of a gay high school classmate, correspondent Peter Alexander admitted the story may be false: "NBC News isn't naming the student who was allegedly bullied....Late last night, his sister told NBC News that his portrayal in the Washington Post story is 'factually incorrect'..."


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-dr...ct-family-alle

At the end of a full report, the correspondent said no such thing.

twa already tried to push that piece of spin. Back in post 878.

And the article doesn't dispute a single thing in the story. Closest it comes to disputing anything, is his sisters saying that the victim never told them about the attack.