Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[FanboyOf91]

We all know who Romney is: Dubya 2.0.

Which means more entitlement spending, more tax cuts, more wars. Nous sommes tous Keynesians.

[SkinsHokieFan]

We all know who Romney is: Dubya 2.0.

Which means more entitlement spending, more tax cuts, more wars. Nous sommes tous Keynesians.

That was Obama's first term

[Renegade7]

Sure, so lead. The President has the ultimate bully pulpit.

Clinton used it to his advantage in 1995 during 2 shutdowns. Rope a doped Gingrich and the R Congress (which was totally controlled by R's, both House and Senate)

President Obama hasn't come close to leading. Its not his style.

Hey, we aren't getting anywhere with this. You really come across as more closed-booked then I thought you were in this thread lately, but at least you'll admit Obama is the lesser of the two evils. I'm just going to wait until the debates until the two are on the same stage together to see how people are going to look at the two choices. I feel violated as a citizen knowing this GOP ticket right now has about a 50-50 chance of being in the white house. They've rallied up the base enough to completely not give a damn what their plan is, its scary...

[NLC1054]

The stuff Obama has done that people conveniently forget he did, but since he wasn't big enough I guess no one wants to talk about it. Or something.

[SkinsHokieFan]

My stance on this election is simple.

If you have anyone on your ticket who voted for, or signed into law NDAA, you won't get my vote

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa

[Unforgiven]

Clint's speach was fine...American Exceptionalism

tough for some to accept

USA USA USA

Seriously? You didn't think it was bizarre to see him interview an imaginary Obama who apparently at one point told Mitt Romney to go **** himself?

I like Clint Eastwood, he's a legend but even the Romney people started to distance themselves instantly from that craziness.

[NLC1054]

That was Obama's first term

We went into more wars? We increased entitlement spending?

To quote Wikipedia, "source needed".

[mistertim]

So...do all of the people saying that Obama isn't a leader actually think Mitt IS? Seriously?

[RedskinsFan44]

Oh it's priced like a luxury vehicle, with a Honda Civic chassis. Yeah it's overprices like all of the hybrids. Reduce oil consumption and reduce the amount of money in your wallet.

The Prius is an economic success. http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/t...rius|prius_buy

Not saying the electric/hybrids are the most economical solution, they are new technology (at least in the sense of being marketed by the major manufacturers) but if you don't consider mileage you are not conservative as far as your personal finances go. Gas prices are about what they were four years ago before the crash. Most of the new methods of extracting gas, shale oil, etc are economical because of the high price of energy. The notion that we are going to see really cheap fuel again is a bit of a pipe dream, IMO.

[NLC1054]

By the way; more people watched "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo" than watched the RNC.

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I don't know if that's funny, sad, or both.

[SkinsHokieFan]

The stuff Obama has done that people conveniently forget he did, but since he wasn't big enough I guess no one wants to talk about it. Or something.

He Fostered Greater Transparency and Better Government, After the Excesses of the Bush Years

Absolute bull

Glen Greenwald isn't exactly a right wing nut either

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/07/prob...secrecy_games/

Probing Obama’s secrecy games
Will high-level Obama officials who leak for political gain be punished on equal terms with actual whistleblowers?

Over the past several months, including just last week, I’ve written numerous times about the two glaring contradictions that drive the Obama administration’s manipulative game-playing with its secrecy powers: (1) at the very same time that they wage an unprecedented war on whistleblowers, they themselves continuously leak national security secrets exclusively designed to glorify Obama purely for political gain; and (2) at the very same time they insist to federal courts that these programs are too secret even to confirm or deny their existence (thereby shielding them from judicial review or basic disclosure), they run around publicly boasting about their actions. Just over the past month alone, they have done precisely this by leaking key details about Obama’s commanding role in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, drone attacks that have killed allegedly key Al Qaeda figures, sophisticated cyber-attacks on Iran’s nuclear program, and the selection of targets for Obama “kill list”: all programs that are classified and which the White House has insisted cannot be subjected to judicial review or any form of public scrutiny.

Click link for more

And one more brilliant article from Greenwald

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/14/secrecy_creep/

Secrecy creep
Executive branch agencies have learned well from the Obama administration's fixation on punishing whistleblowers

That the Obama administration has waged an unprecedented war on whistleblowers is by now well-known and well-documented, as is its general fixation on not just maintaining but increasing even the most extreme and absurd levels of secrecy. Unsurprisingly, this ethos — that the real criminals are those who expose government wrongdoing, not those who engage in that wrongdoing — now pervades lower levels of the Executive Branch as well.

Last night, McClatchy reported on a criminal investigation launched by the Inspector General (IG) of the National Reconnaissance Office, America’s secretive spy satellite agency, against the agency’s deputy director, Air Force Maj. Gen. Susan Mashiko. After Mashiko learned that four senior NRO officials whose identities she did not know reported to the IG “a series of allegations of malfeasant actions” by another NRO official relating to large contracts, Mashiko allegedly vowed: “I would like to find them and fire them.”

[Duckus]

Clint's speach was fine...American Exceptionalism

tough for some to accept

USA USA USA

Agreed. Dude killed it.

Let us cut the budget, lower all taxes, increase military spending and bomb the **** out of Iran.

USA! USA!

[thebluefood]

Why wait though? Nothing is guranteed. What could he possibly have? Legalize pot. I'll back him on that 100 percent. I just don't know why he would have kept things to himself with the super majorities he had in 2009 and 2010

Well, he was able to pass ACA and repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell while he had Democratic control of Congress. Didn't set the world on fire, but it wasn't like he completely sat around and did nothing.

Maybe Obama was defensive these past four years because he was worried about getting reelected. If he's able to do that, and have Democratic control of both houses, then he'll have nothing to lose.

I don't know what else he has up his sleeve, but if he has anything and gets reelected, I can't see why he wouldn't put his cards on the table.

[SkinsHokieFan]

So...do all of the people saying that Obama isn't a leader actually think Mitt IS? Seriously?

Not at all. Mitt showed what an empty suit he was this week. I won't participate in this corporate welfare, war mongering song and dance election any further.

[Renegade7]

My stance on this election is simple.

If you have anyone on your ticket who voted for, or signed into law NDAA, you won't get my vote

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa

As bad as that is, you really think Mitt wouldn't of voted for it as well? Hell, Bush was doing this before it was even signed into law. What do you think all those terrorists in Cuba are down there on vacation or something???