Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[twa]

Pro-life but conveniently forgetting about the death penalty. Whatever, unborn babies and brain dead people are so much more morally "tidy".

Preserving the Sanctity of marriage. I would believe conservatives want to preserve SoM but so many of them don't live the ideal.

make it pro-innocent life for me, my respect for others right to life is weak as it is

Marriage means a lifetime commitment,come what may, to me....it hasn't been ideal,but it remains committed.
my father in law made 57 yrs,a good role model

[RedskinsFan44]

What % of military spending is discretionary in your estimation?

I look forward to the free contraceptives though


wait!!!...does this mean the military bio-fuel program is gonna get cut?

According to the way discretionary spending is defined, 100%. The point was Ryan is trying to pretend the sequestration hits defense inordinately by saying half of the cuts are to defense, which is less than half of total spending. This is a deliberate attempt to mislead people, because entitlements, or mandatory spending is not affected by the sequestration. Ryan, being involved in the budgetary process, and you, being a follower of politics, knew that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...budget_process

The whole Republicans crying about cutting 10% of the defense budget shows them to be hypocrites on spending. Most of the rhetoric they throw out to defend the defense budget includes complaining about job losses.

http://secondtonone.org/analysis-pro...m-defense-cuts

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...urW_story.html

Please explain how deficit defense spending is good for the economy but deficit spending on roads, science and education is bad for the economy.

Rail against free contraceptives all you want, they actually save money and prevent abortions. It certainly won't help Romney November 6.

[twa]

the whole process is ridiculous

as is classifying alt energy programs defense spending.......roads, science and education are obviously defense spending as well since they are done by them

free contraceptives won't save anything,nor are they free....selective sterilisation might.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/clo...ception-costs/

[Buford]

Mitt Romney Criticizes Defense Cuts That Paul Ryan Voted For

Mitt Romney criticized defense spending cuts that were part of last year's debt ceiling deal in an interview that will air Sunday on NBC's 'Meet The Press'.

"I thought it was a mistake on the part of the White House to propose [the defense cuts]. I think it was a mistake for Republicans to go along with it," Romney said.

Among the Republicans who supported the deal was Paul Ryan, the chair of the House budget committee and Romney's running mate. Paul not only voted for the cuts, he bragged about them afterwards.

"What conservatives like me have been fighting for, for years, are statutory caps on spending, legal caps in law that says government agencies cannot spend over a set amount of money," Ryan told Fox News last year, according to TPM. “And if they breach that amount across the board, sequester comes in to cut that spending, and you can’t turn that off without a super-majority vote. We got that in law.”

More from the link.

[RedskinsFan44]

the whole process is ridiculous

as is classifying alt energy programs defense spending.......roads, science and education are obviously defense spending as well since they are done by them

free contraceptives won't save anything,nor are they free....selective sterilisation might.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/clo...ception-costs/

From your link: What we can say is this: The administration hasn’t proven that requiring insurance companies to provide free contraception on request will save them enough in medical costs to make the net costs zero or less. But by the same token, the president’s critics can’t prove that he’s wrong,

So I will concede that whether it is cost neutral is debatable, but a reduction in unwanted pregnancies, and whence a reduction in abortions (legal or otherwise) would seem to follow.
And given that unwanted pregnancies are more frequent in young, unmarried, and poor people they almost certainly result in increased entitlement spending.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/re...egnancy-thomas

[skinsmarydu]

Well I don't know who your husband works for, or what state you live in, or who you have to pray for.

I have 70 employees.

They answer 1 simple question for their dependents, who is your primary care physician.

I could lay out my costs for Life, Short Term, and Long Term disability as well as dental care...but that might be called a lie too.

Sorry for the misunderstanding...never meant to imply that you weren't being truthful.

[Hersh]

More from the link.

David Gregory better ask him about his tax plan and what he intends to cut as well as question how his numbers add up. If not, it's a wasted interview since the economy is all Romney wants to talk about.

[RedskinsFan44]

George Will on This Week with George Stephanopolous 'If the Republican Party can't win an election in this type of environment then they need to get out of politics"

[NLC1054]

Jesus Christ Mitt, can you not speak in talking points...

[Larry]

Jesus Christ Mitt, can you not speak in talking points...

I think that, in this point of the election, it's downright fatal for any politician to do otherwise.

Not that I like it. But I recognize the fact.

[NLC1054]

...Is Mitt Romney supposed to be an expert on the economy? Because David Gregory is asking him simple questions about why his math does add up and he can't answer them.

[Buford]

I want to see Romney and Ryan debate each other from opposite sides of a wall where they don't know who the other guy is.

[NLC1054]

Mitt Romney: I don't want to completely repeal Obamacare. If you'll remember my plan in Massachusetts was the exact same thing!

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Bold prediction: Mitt Romney is going to crumble like aluminum foil in the debates if this is what he's like when he gets pressed on the issues...

[RedskinsFan44]

David Gregory better ask him about his tax plan and what he intends to cut as well as question how his numbers add up. If not, it's a wasted interview since the economy is all Romney wants to talk about.

He did and Romney refused to give specifics. Romney rather pointed to opinion pieces out of Harvard and Princeton, which on first scan seem to say that yes, you could close enough loopholes for the wealthy to cover the loss of revenue from the cuts without effectively raising taxes on the middle class. But like Romney they do not try to specify which loopholes would be closed or whether it would be politically possible to close them. Ryan answered similarly on his interview with Stephanopolous, even more awkwardly because when he was pressed about specifics Ryan kept pushing the idea that working out what loopholes would be cut after the election was the more "open " approach. I do feel that Romney actually finished the interview strongly with his claim to care more for the country than his own political ambitions, but I think the focus will be on his answers to the questions about sequestration and tax cuts.

[Hersh]

David Gregory did a good job.

It appears now that Romney doesn't really want to appeal Obamacare. I'm not sure the difference between Romneycare and Obamacare.

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I think tactically it's a mistake for Romney to be vague about the tax issue. If he was very specific it would play to his business acumen that he's running on.