Make a completely untrue claim about libertarianism.
Get called on it.
Respond by putting the word "modern" in front of libertarianism, double and re-double down on your claims (still without support), and loudly announce "That's a fact."
Let's test your completely unfounded claim, shall we?
I don't know about "a dozen libertarians on the street". Far as I know, they don't wear signs. (And, frankly, I suspect that if you were to go out and find a bunch of libertarians, and ask them to justify why they believe what they do, that their biggest response would be "None of your business".) (Libertarians are funny, that way. )
But, here on ES, I'm aware of at least two libertarians. Myself and SnyderShrugged. (I think there are others. But I confess that I don't keep a political alignment scorecard in my head, so I don't know who the others are.)
Now, SS and I probably disagree like 90% of the time, in here. It's downright hostile, often, between us. So you can't exactly try to claim that the two of us represent some tiny, fringe element of libertarianism. (We might represent two tiny fringes, but definitely not one.)
And it wouldn't surprise me if neither if us has so much as read Ayn Rand.
Me, I'll tell you that I first heard of libertarianism in high school, from a classroom assignment reading a section of John Stewart Mill's On Liberty. (It made a big enough impression that I actually still remember the title of the reading assignment. Only other thing I'm certain that I read in High School was Romeo and Juliet.
Ah, got it.An that's my point. So unless you are going to argue that Rand was a sane rational person full of wonderful ideas that will save the world, I'll stand by my point. MODERN libertarianism is a complete fantasy with no basis in reality.
You hereby demand that I must either "argue that Rand was a sane rational person full of wonderful ideas that will save the world", or else regard that your (completely unsupported) claim that "MODERN libertarianism is a complete fantasy with no basis in reality".
Tell you what. I can play that game, too.
Unless you want to argue that you pull; bombastic statements completely out of your Philly, and then attack people when they point out the fact that your "fact" is completely untrue, then I will stand by my point. Your post was completely untrue. And I've proven it.
Don't want people pointing out that your claims aren't true? Don't make them.But hey, thanks for assuming I'm ignorant and once again side tracking one of my statements in an attempt to show how smart you are.
And responding to the statement that you made is not "side tracking one of my statements".
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