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    So...basically "The risk of conflict is higher now in the Middle East, so my plan is to put more US troops there, because in the past that has shown to be an excellent way to calm things down in that region!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistertim View Post
    So...basically "The risk of conflict is higher now in the Middle East, so my plan is to put more US troops there, because in the past that has shown to be an excellent way to calm things down in that region!"
    "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran."

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    Maybe I am slow today, but I am failing to see a) where the US would have more troops overseas with a Romney presidency and b) any significant departure from the Bush/Obama foreign policy.

    Can anyone point specifics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    Maybe I am slow today, but I am failing to see a) where the US would have more troops overseas with a Romney presidency and b) any significant departure from the Bush/Obama foreign policy.

    Can anyone point specifics?
    Iran

    If Bush had a third term we would have invaded Iran already
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    LMAO...people will go to weird lengths to bash someone they don't like. Romney has never advocated troops on the ground in Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistertim View Post
    So...basically "The risk of conflict is higher now in the Middle East, so my plan is to put more US troops there, because in the past that has shown to be an excellent way to calm things down in that region!"
    Putting a foreign army in tanks on the street is always a reassuring sign for the local populace.

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    Iran
    What specifically with Iran though? Where the red line is?

    I understand how close Romney and Bibi are, but part of longstanding US policy with Israel, going back to R and D admins, is to make sure Israel doesn't pull us into a war.

    How in the hell are we even going to get troops into Iran?

    From what I am reading in this thread, Romney today said "we are invading Iran"

    I am not seeing that in the transcript
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prosperity View Post
    Iran

    If Bush had a third term we would have invaded Iran already
    That's how you see it in your mind, perhaps.

    People, please stop making wild assumptions about things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    Maybe I am slow today, but I am failing to see a) where the US would have more troops overseas with a Romney presidency and b) any significant departure from the Bush/Obama foreign policy.

    Can anyone point specifics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by visionary View Post
    In your mind, perhaps.

    People, please stop making wild assumptions about things.
    Thank you.

    I already see very troublesome aspects of what a Romney FP would represent, namely with some of his advisors that he has and that there is no significant change from the last 11 years of US foreign policy.

    I am not seeing where all of a sudden we are invading Iran with 200k troops

    If anything, based on actions, I would be worried that the current Admin will utilize drone strikes over Iran to eliminate the nuclear program. It would fall into line of the actions this administration has done the last 4 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    What specifically with Iran though? Where the red line is?

    I understand how close Romney and Bibi are, but part of longstanding US policy with Israel, going back to R and D admins, is to make sure Israel doesn't pull us into a war.

    How in the hell are we even going to get troops into Iran?

    From what I am reading in this thread, Romney today said "we are invading Iran"

    I am not seeing that in the transcript
    I don't think Romney has the balls to stand up to Netanyahu. I think he would allow israel to attack Iran and that we'd be drawn into a war after Iran retaliates. I'm basing this on GOP's stance on Israel, Iran, and foreign policy since Bush. Has Romney stated specifically he'd do that? No but he hadn't been specific about anything. But I think it's a fair projection based on how the GOP has responded to anything to do w/ Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prosperity View Post
    I don't think Romney has the balls to stand up to Netanyahu. I think he would allow israel to attack Iran and that we'd be drawn into a war after Iran retaliates. I'm basing this on GOP's stance on Israel, Iran, and foreign policy since Bush.
    Why wouldn't we have just done this back in 2006 when Israel was drawn into a mini war?

    I just don't see where Romney has indicated today, or at all, that suddenly we are going to have a war with Iran. A war with Iran has been scared into us and "imminent" since 2002, which is why I tend to ignore the bluster on Iran, its so called nuclear program and any way with Iran
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan View Post
    Maybe I am slow today, but I am failing to see a) where the US would have more troops overseas with a Romney presidency and b) any significant departure from the Bush/Obama foreign policy.

    Can anyone point specifics?
    Can we parse this statement?

    Romney focused on the fault lines of Libya, Egypt and especially Syria, where he said Obama has "failed" to lead. Departing from current U.S. policy, Romney said he would work with U.S. allies to "identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat" Bashar Assad's forces.

    "Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously through our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran -- rather than sitting on the sidelines," Romney said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz28jWS7ogL

    Who are "our international partners?" Israel? What exactly are we going to send to Syria? Guns? Rockets? Humvees? Tanks? Drones? Special forces? Marines?
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    No, it means sending some stuff to Syria. I am just not sure what or how much stuff Romney is talking about.
    I am not sure anything Romney is talking about

    I just had no idea where some posters were getting that we are suddenly going to see ground troops all over the Middle East and an invasion of Iran is scheduled for January 21st, 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by DjTj View Post
    Can we parse this statement?

    Romney focused on the fault lines of Libya, Egypt and especially Syria, where he said Obama has "failed" to lead. Departing from current U.S. policy, Romney said he would work with U.S. allies to "identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat" Bashar Assad's forces.

    "Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously through our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran -- rather than sitting on the sidelines," Romney said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz28jWS7ogL

    Who are "our international partners?" Israel? What exactly are we going to send to Syria? Guns? Rockets? Humvees? Tanks? Drones? Special forces? Marines?
    So this means we are sending 200k troops to Iran, as seems to be indicated by posters in this thread?
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