Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[Predicto]

Romney is really throwing a hail mary in Ohio with the Jeep ads. There is apparently a new radio ad they just put out that doubles down on it, even after pretty much everyone and their mother is calling it a bald faced lie. Either the Romney camp really really thinks people in Ohio are exceptionally stupid and gullible or they know they're losing there and are desperate. My guess is the latter.

Actually, it's worse than that. Bald faced lying works.

After all, what's the down side? If it works you win and no one will care. If it doesn't work, no one will care.

[Redskins Diehard]

What reports are those?

Tyrone Woods' father has made that claim. I am not sure what the basis of it is.

My personal opinion is that the events in Cairo and events in Banghazi were conflated in many people's minds. Most likely including senior members of the administration. If I remember correctly they were both happening at around the same time.

i would not expect, nor would I want, the President to be involved in tactical decisions of whether or not a small team from one compound should travel as a QRF to an adjacent compound. The bigger question of whether or not there was some sort of CAS available from Sigonella and what the conop was for supporting our folks in Libya is the more important questions that should be answered. I don't think there is some sort of systemic issue with our security posture at diplomatic outposts around the world. So really my only question is if we knew early on that the attack was a terrorist attack then why wasn't that understood throughout some very senior levels of the administration. I also think it was poor form on the President's part to conduct his campaign events in the midst of what was going on.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-report-raise/

[Ellis]

For a good day now, my republican friends are regurgitating that Jeep lie... even after I've given them links to Chrysler LLC outright denying it and pretty much calling Romney a liar.

[Larry]

For a good day now, my republican friends are regurgitating that Jeep lie... even after I've given them links to Chrysler LLC outright denying it and pretty much calling Romney a liar.

Well of course Chrysler denies it. Obama owns them.

(Yes, that was sarcasm.)

[NLC1054]

Well of course Chrysler denies it. Obama owns them.

(Yes, that was sarcasm.)

Damn it, Larry, I think your just created a conspiracy theory...

[twa]

What reports are those?

read a milblog,it seems a popular topic. of course it could be like that protest meme as well

if you are really interested I can link some,or of course FAUX news

[Jumbo]

For a good day now, my republican friends are regurgitating that Jeep lie... even after I've given them links to Chrysler LLC outright denying it and pretty much calling Romney a liar.

I think in the last decade, the right wing of the political dodo bird has notably elevated the pig-brain stupid, the bigoted, the fanatical, and even the psychotic and truly delusional level of their activity, as well as the more standard distortion-laden spins and flat out lying so common to right & left along with all the more "normal" aspects of rigid partisanship, and it's all being embraced by a much wider contingent on the right. Very sad (well, pathetic, actually).

I used to correct anyone who said I must be a lefty or a liberal or even a democrat when they'd hear me criticizing some right wing deal, but now I'm fine with any label that distinguishes me from a party I have come to hold in such general and serious disregard.

I still see a lot of worthwhile tenets in associated conservative ideology and know a lot of good people (and there are hordes no doubt) who are loyal GOP, of course, but it's not enough to over-ride the overwhelming negatives for me when it comes to framing the party as a "whole."

[alexey]

Conservatism is like salt. You need some salt but don't try to make a meal out of it.

[twa]

Conservatism is like salt...for progressive slugs?

[Jumbo]

Conservatism is like salt...for progressive slugs?

Now that's something I know about, here in the rainforest. Hate those ****ers when they get on the porch.

The slugs, too.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

http://www.freep.com/article/2012103...na?odyssey=tab

GM calls latest Romney auto ad 'politics at its cynical worst'



GM quickly defended its performance.

“We've clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days,” GM spokesman Greg Martin said. “No amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the U.S. and repatriating profits back to this country.”

Separately, Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne used an e-mail to employees today to refute the implication in a Romney TV ad that Chrysler may move all Jeep production from the U.S. to China.

“Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China,” Marchionne stated in the e-mail. “The numbers tell the story,” followed by specific investments Chrysler has made at its plants in Detroit, Toledo and Belvidere, Ill. “Those include more than $1.7 billion to produce the successor of the Jeep Liberty and hire about 1,100 workers on a second shift by 2013.”

Marchionne also said Chrysler has created 2,000 jobs at its Jefferson North assembly plant since June 2009 where it makes the Jeep Grand Cherokee. The automaker has added 2,600 jobs in Belvidere, Ill., where its assembles the Jeep Patriot and Compass, along with the Dodge Dart.

GM’s total U.S. employment did fall by about 14,000 from the end of 2008 until the end of 2011, according to the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. But the majority of those occurred in early 2009 in the crisis-driven months leading up to its bankruptcy restructuring.

Similarly to Chrysler, GM has added jobs at factories that have launched new products. Both companies are very profitable in the U.S. and those profits are offsetting losses GM, or in the case of Chrysler, Fiat, is suffering in Europe.

Chrysler reported a $381-million third-quarter profit. GM will report its results Wednesday.

[Duckus]

http://www.freep.com/article/2012103...na?odyssey=tab

Embarrassing.

[NLC1054]

Leadership:

Mitt Romney has a not-campaign campaign rally in Ohio. Has huge donation drive for canned goods and water. Says it's going to go to the American Red Cross. Nice photo-op.

American Red Cross' websites says they don't want canned goods and water because they're basically logistical nightmares.

Way to go Mitt, you gutless punk. Hope you got a nice photo-op. In Ohio. A swing state.

[Hersh]

Leadership:

Mitt Romney has a not-campaign campaign rally in Ohio. Has huge donation drive for canned goods and water. Says it's going to go to the American Red Cross. Nice photo-op.

American Red Cross' websites says they don't want canned goods and water because they're basically logistical nightmares.

Way to go Mitt, you gutless punk. Hope you got a nice photo-op. In Ohio. A swing state.

History won't be kind to Mitt Romney regardless of what happens.

[GSF]

Romney's can drive seems like a pretty stupid stunt to me. How's he going to get the cans there and distribute them? All the major roads are closed. I guess a week or so from now he could get them there, but wouldn't his cans be a drop in the ocean? I think collecting monetary donations for the red cross would have been a lot more helpful, though I guess he probably wants any monetary donations for his campaign.