Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[GibbsFactor]

I seem to remember that Microsoft was convicted of violating antitrust laws, way back under Clinton.

Any word on when they're going to be punished?

Are you kidding? They had to adjust their code to allow the removal of IE and Media Player.

Such a big punishment!!

[alexey]

My mother and father are retired from the government. I can assure you that my comments were not directed at anyone working for the government. Moreover, I was making a high level statement with regards to accountability at the highest levels. I was not making a stab at government workers. By they way, government workers salary has outpaced the public sector for years outside of executive pay.

So you do know that many people in public service have a pride of ownership...

I suppose comparisons between salaries in public and private sectors depend on skill level... Maybe government salaries flatten out more as you go up. As far as I understand in strictly utilitarian terms at a certain level the choice becomes public service with good job security and less pay vs. private sector with not-so-good job security and more pay.

Which is why I have an attraction to Mitt Romney's management skills.

I understand that's how Romney is generally viewed by his supporters but I do not agree with it. I see him as a salesman, not a statesman. I do not see him as a public servant, as somebody who wants to advance the public good, or as a man of honor. I do not trust him at all (personal impression, not because he has an R).

The problem comes when that entity becomes compromised. What then? They have all been compromised by the legislation they are sworn to uphold.

Reform, roll heads, etc.

I agree with you. All the way back to Reagan.

That's why I am supporting this particular GOP nominee. His management skills and moderate nature should be great for the country. Much like Clinton was a great moderate.

I do not see Romney that way but I hope you are right.

Maybe the biggest issue in this election is the Supreme Court, and from that perspective getting a Democrat in there is very important if we ever want to do campaign finance reform or start getting rid of the corporate person-hood business.

Government is a system abused by the rich and the poor and left for the middle to pay for.


We have two to vote for tomorrow.

I think putting the rich and the poor in the same sentence as "abusers of government" is a misrepresentation. Our government is set up to make the rich richer and keep the poor from rioting.




There are many things I disagree with Obama on, but I do not buy the narrative about Obama being the "government is the solution" type. It is a standard simplistic smear that does not work for me as a replacement for actual points.

[Monte51Coleman]

Point is that it doesn't matter what color is in control of the leg or exec branches under the current system.

To paraphrase that great statesman ( ) Jesse Ventura- Our government will become what it's citizens wish it would be as soon as it is no longer based on bribery.

[skinsfan_1215]

Anyone else see the "Mitt saved my daughter" ad?

[JimboDaMan]

Anyone else see the "Mitt saved my daughter" ad?

That the one where Romney closed the company for a couple of days and sent everyone to NYC to search for an employee's daughter (turned out she was holed up at her boyfriend's house in Jersey)?

I applaud the guy for that. Not a reason to vote for him for President, but I do applaud him for it.

[skinsfan_1215]

That the one where Romney closed the company for a couple of days and sent everyone to NYC to search for an employee's daughter (turned out she was holed up at her boyfriend's house in Jersey)?

I applaud the guy for that. Not a reason to vote for him for President, but I do applaud him for it.

Look if it's a true story then good for him (it's a superpac ad so I believe it less than the average political ad). But if that's your final pitch to America the night before the election... Eeek.

[Hersh]

Oh, it's perfectly rational to have privacy and civil liberty concerns. What is *not* rational IMO, is denying the threat of terrorism to the point that we do not address the need to monitor terrorists within our borders. That's my problem with the far left. Instead of pushing for fixes that would protect liberties while allowing us to find and stop terrorists, they want the tools that we need gone.

By all means, be concerned for civil liberties. All I ask is that the solution does not risk lives.

Since this is the Romney/Ryan thread, I'm going to make only one final comment on this. There is probably another thread to continue this in.

Risk lives is your criteria? Maybe we should mandate curfews to stop late night crimes. Maybe everyone should have to check in with the federal government via fingerprint everyday around 6pm. Obviously this is hyperbole on my part but the point is that the line between government overreach in the name of fighting terrorism isn't so clear. What fixes are you advocating that would protect liberties?

[Larry]

That the one where Romney closed the company for a couple of days and sent everyone to NYC to search for an employee's daughter (turned out she was holed up at her boyfriend's house in Jersey)?

I applaud the guy for that. Not a reason to vote for him for President, but I do applaud him for it.

Oh, I've seen several "Look what a great guy he is" ads (mentioned in this thread.)

I remember one where he's being praised by some guy who owns a house on the same private lake where Romney owns a house, and he was bringing his boat up to the public dock at the clubhouse on the lake, and Romney helped him tie the boat to the dock.

(No, I'm not making that up. Somebody actually posted that, here.)

[JimboDaMan]

Oh, I've seen several "Look what a great guy he is" ads (mentioned in this thread.)

I remember one where he's being praised by some guy who owns a house on the same private lake where Romney owns a house, and he was bringing his boat up to the public dock at the clubhouse on the lake, and Romney helped him tie the boat to the dock.

(No, I'm not making that up. Somebody actually posted that, here.)

lol. That "some guy" was Bill Marriott. He and Thurston, er, Mitt own lake houses near each other. Whadda guy, that Mitt!

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...ral_votes.html

Romney's Last Path to 270 Electoral Votes



Romney officials tell National Review that the campaign "is focused on two key states as Election Day nears: Ohio and Pennsylvania. They believe that they are competitive in Ohio, but should it drift away, they're looking at Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes as a possible substitute for the Buckeye State."

Said a Romney adviser: "We have got to win one of those two states and do well everywhere else. We're still pushing in Ohio, but it's unpredictable. Pennsylvania, however, is really in play."

Romney's final-day schedule -- he will campaign in Pittsburgh and Cleveland.-- reflects his strategy.

[Toe Jam]

lol. Who the hell told him that PA is in play? It won't even be close in PA.

[Popeman38]

i think you missed the point of both my post and the article. What are the "unconfirmed" allegations you are struggling with?

Do you disagree that lax regulation can lead to bad results? Or that failure to hold bad actors accountable allows them to continue performing bad acts?

The article wasn't saying that the meningitis outbreak can be directly linked to romney. It was saying that letting companies off the hook for mistakes with no repercussions because you want to be "pro-business" can have bad outcomes. And while the meningitis outbreak cannot be directly linked to anyone in the government, the failure to regulate the company and hold it accountable can be a reason that the company continued despite its poor track record.

OK? Romney was governor. Romney signed legislation. A company in Mass is linked to meningitis outbreak. Opinion piece is written in Salon, an admitted liberal progressive site, citing a lawyer that this ties to Mitt Romney. The agencies reported to Romney. Therefore, Mitt Romney is responsible.

That is so egregiously short on facts and logic, it is no different than Michelle Malkin running a piece saying the Attorney General and all of DoJ report to the President, therefore President Obama is personally responsible and should be charged with murder because a Border Patrol agent died in a DoJ operation.

---------- Post added November-5th-2012 at 09:27 PM ----------

From one person.

Take a deep breath.

I know. But not a single rebuke from the left for posting this? A FoxNews article gets hammered on here.

[Jumbo]

I know. But not a single rebuke from the left for posting this? A FoxNews article gets hammered on here.

Let me rephrase that.--I'll go with "n/m"

[SkinsFTW]

Haha, Romney in the MNF speech just said that he takes credit for the New England Patriots 2 Super Bowl wins

Maybe he meant the losses because they won 3.

[MattFancy]

Haha, Romney in the MNF speech just said that he takes credit for the New England Patriots 2 Super Bowl wins

Maybe he meant the losses because they won 3.

What a doof. He really knows the average American lol