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    Quote Originally Posted by Corcaigh View Post
    But when you use the term immigrants, let's be clear on demographics. Loudoun and Fairfax in Virginia are two of the three most affluent counties in the country. Both are now blue. These are predominantly wealthy middle class well-educated suburban families. If the GoP are losing this group, as well as minorities, they are in big trouble.
    Immigrants isnt necessarily a negative term. My parents are immigrants. My whole family including aunts, uncles, cousins, and etc all live in nothern virginia and iam just a 1st generation american along with my cousins. I can proudly say everyone in our family are definitely well off by working hard and getting our education and making alot of money. Our family have always been democratic. Being loyal to the party as we had to work our way up to get to where we are not. Even though the taxes are a ***** we will definitely stay loyal because the same democratic party helped us get to where we are and i dont see us changing parties anytime soon. The republicans just seems too outdated. I just dont see how republicans can last with their thinking of touchy topics. With their views on taxes, immigration, abortion, and foreign policy they just dont connect with the new modern america. Their views are old and outdated one of the main reasons i believe their party is slowly fading away. You wont find many college students going republican because of its conservative stands. These young college students are the future of our country meaning republicans are definitely not the future. Young people supported Democrats by a 2 to 1 margin thats an outrageous number and the stats show not many people change parties during their lifetimes, and the ones that do can hardly touch the numbers that democrats lead republicans 2 to 1 margin.
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    Everyone knew Romney was a personality-less and rich elitist

    He was too stiff to win the race, I'm sorry

    It got to the point where many even questioned whether he was a human being or a corporation running for president. So good riddance


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    Quote Originally Posted by HighSteppin' View Post
    Maybe the Republican party needs to take a look at themselves and see how they can appeal to a broader demographic, huh?
    They actually do with minorities. Hispanics/Blacks are a conservative culture in general. Talk to most of them on their political views & sound republican to me. I lean liberal myself, but I'm surprised the minorities swing that way.

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    The Republicans won't change their position on women's reproductive rights, religion and immigration because that is who they are. If they did so, they'd be the Democrats.

    What will happen is that their support will erode over time and the party will be replaced by something new. The 2 party system doesn't stipulate Republicans and Democrats, its just that way because those are the two most supported parties. Eventually, it will be the Democrats and something else - both of whom will be fairly 'mainstream' on social issues because that's where the country seems to be going (all be it slowly, don't forget 49% of people still voted Republican).

    Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing a candidate (or Party) that was middle-left on social issues, and slightly right on economic issues (by today's standards). I think that's what's next.
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    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...or-mitt-romney
    A job for Mitt Romney

    Multimillionaire Mitt Romney clearly doesn’t need a job. He is, after all, one of the “1 percent.” But if President Obama wants to enlist his help in avoiding the fiscal cliff, he could do worse than to approach Romney about replacing Tim Geithner as Treasury secretary.


    I can't see how Obama would explain that move after all the negative stuff they hammered home during the campaign about Romney's business record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visionary View Post
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    I can't see how Obama would explain that move after all the negative stuff they hammered home during the campaign about Romney's business record.
    One of the more fun bits on last night's DS was the clips of Fox frothing heads talking about how Romney was brutally savaged by a distorted Obama-led presentation of who Mitt was, followed by a montage of clips of all the other conservative GOP candidates saying the EXACT same things about Romney before the R convention.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    One of the more fun bits on last night's DS was the clips of Fox frothing heads talking about how Romney was brutally savaged by a distorted Obama-led presentation of who Mitt was, followed by a montage of clips of all the other conservative GOP candidates saying the EXACT same things about Romney before the R convention.


    Oh yeah, I remember Newt and Perry were really going after him over 'vulture capitalism'.
    I'm surprised there weren't too many ads in the general showing his rivals bashing him during the primaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visionary View Post
    Oh yeah, I remember Newt and Perry were really going after him over 'vulture capitalism'.
    I'm surprised there weren't too many ads in the general showing his rivals bashing him during the primaries.
    I thought for sure Obama's campaign would have used more clips of Mitt's rivals in the GOP slamming him so mercilessly.
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    Click on the link to read the rest.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...hocked-by-loss


    Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss


    Mitt Romney's campaign got its first hint something was wrong on the afternoon of Election Day, when state campaign workers on the ground began reporting huge turnout in areas favorable to President Obama: northeastern Ohio, northern Virginia, central Florida and Miami-Dade.

    Then came the early exit polls that also were favorable to the president.

    But it wasn't until the polls closed that concern turned into alarm. They expected North Carolina to be called early. It wasn't. They expected Pennsylvania to be up in the air all night; it went early for the President.

    After Ohio went for Mr. Obama, it was over, but senior advisers say no one could process it.

    "We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory," said one senior adviser. "I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."

    They just couldn't believe they had been so wrong. And maybe they weren't: There was Karl Rove on Fox saying Ohio wasn't settled, so campaign aides decided to wait. They didn't want to have to withdraw their concession, like Al Gore did in 2000, and they thought maybe the suburbs of Columbus and Cincinnati, which hadn't been reported, could make a difference.

    But then came Colorado for the president and Florida also was looking tougher than anyone had imagined.

    "We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one."

    Romney then said what they knew: it was over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONAWARPATH View Post
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    I think they truelly believed that they would significantly improve over the numbers McCain had. I know I did, heck I think most people thought this and the question was would it be enough to overcome the decline in Obama's 2008 votes. Turns out support for the President actually collapsed to the point even a very small improvement over McCains numbers would have won it for Romney. The problem is the Republican vote declined significantly as well and no one saw that coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONAWARPATH View Post
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    These people must have been truly delusional then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prosperity View Post
    These people must have been truly delusional then.
    I dunno about all that. Yes, maybe they were a bit over confident about Romney winning easily, but I can't blame them for their reactions to all this. Think about all the blood, sweat and tears they put into this campaign. If after all that time and effort you lose the election, and by a pretty hefty margin in the electoral college, after many polls assured you it was at least going to be close, you'd be shell shocked, too.
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    I'm not sure if this was posted earlier elsewhere but Rachael Maddow tweeted this tonight.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php

    It's a first person account of Romney's Project ORCA. It really shows the level of organization they had for their ground game on election day, it's no wonder Obama's team killed them in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefood View Post
    I dunno about all that. Yes, maybe they were a bit over confident about Romney winning easily, but I can't blame them for their reactions to all this. Think about all the blood, sweat and tears they put into this campaign. If after all that time and effort you lose the election, and by a pretty hefty margin in the electoral college, after many polls assured you it was at least going to be close, you'd be shell shocked, too.
    Shell shocked? Maybe. I understand being disappointed, but I don't understand how professional political strategists were certain they would win. Fact is, at best the race was a toss up, but there was tremendous amount of evidence that Obama was the favorite going into this race. If they were surprised it is because they didn't know what they were doing. They didn't know what they were doing because they surrounded themselves with people who were more concerned about spinning and soothsaying than actual evidence and analysis. They were flabbergasted because they did not entertain opposing ideas. I can understand rank and file party folks favoring overly optimistic outlets like Unskewed polls. But, people who are paid for this? People's who's jobs it is to win elections? No. They really should have known better. But they didn't because they believed their own lies.
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