Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[The Evil Genius]

I really only see 2-3 candidates who could actually help Romney at the VP position.

Rubio and Christie. Perhaps Pawlenty.

Outside of those 3, is there anyone who could actually help Romney win the moderate vote (which he needs) - assuming he has locked up 99% of the GOP already?

[Tulane Skins Fan]

I think Romney is really doing pretty well considering, he has been pummelled in the press for a few weeks now and the latest poll has him at 45-43 beating Obama. After all the bad press and attack ads he is leading by a slim margin. Even in some swing states he is pretty close.
Pretty good position to be in with 3 months to go against an incumbent.
There is still the VP announcement - which probably wont be a big deal but if its a swing state Gov or favorite, it might help.
Three months of employment numbers to go - which could be really good for him if they are still stagnant.

I think its anyones game and his biggest obstacle is the Obama friendly press.

I am voting for him, not that I am a big supporter but my vote is just an anti-Obama vote that I want to count. Gary Johnson -sorry, the guy doesnt even register in polls.

I really want a business man in the office for a term. I am fed up with career politicians... I wanted to vote for Trump but he just got too nutty....

That worked out well with W.

Given, Mitt is a better businessman than W, but W was a "businessman" before he became governor of Texas.

[Larry]

This is hilarious:
Romney to Olympians: 'You didn't get here solely on your own'



More at link

Dang. And here, I saw your link, saw that it didn't include a reference to which source it was from, and concluded "Onion".

[skinsmarydu]

That worked out well with W.

Given, Mitt is a better businessman than W, but W was a "businessman" before he became governor of Texas.

And he ran every business into the ground, too. Even the Texas Rangers(I think it was the freakishly large salary of A-Rod, if I'm remembering correctly.)

[Buford]

The Olympic quote is a trip and will find itself in another ad where he's contradicting himself. I agree with those that he's weathered this storm pretty well. Thing is with the President, I don't see anything new and blockbuster coming out. Its going to be just constant hitting on the established weak points.

Romney still has his record as Governor that will probably come up. Then will some Dem Super-Pac start hitting him dirty on some of the more unique aspects of the Mormon Church? The posthumously baptized Jews. Asking what he thinks of that. Asking him to talk about his faith in detail, etc. Usually its such a strong point for GOPers like Bush or Huckaboom. But Romney never mentions it.

[USS Redskins]

That worked out well with W.

Given, Mitt is a better businessman than W, but W was a "businessman" before he became governor of Texas.

Good point, I agree but its very narrow thinking to condemn all because of one F-up.
I am just sick of politics and politicians.
I was hoping a real businessman would get in there and stop all the nonsense on both sides.

[Buford]

Good point, I agree but its very narrow thinking to condemn all because of one F-up.
I am just sick of politics and politicians.
I was hoping a real businessman would get in there and stop all the nonsense on both sides.

I don't know if I trust the top business men of the past decade. The ones that want to run are shady, and the ones that are the best qualified are smart enough to know its not worth putting yourself and your family through.

Is there really any profession that makes the best Presidents? Military? Law?

I want somebody smart and understands how to choose quality people to put around him/her, and is able to delegate well. Right now after the past few decades, we need somebody of strong moral character who isn't owned by their party and lobbyists. Good luck with that.

[Larry]

Good point, I agree but its very narrow thinking to condemn all because of one F-up.
I am just sick of politics and politicians.
I was hoping a real businessman would get in there and stop all the nonsense on both sides.

You mean like, say, Herman Cain?

[deejaydana]

I hate to be negative---it is so easy to do so in political threads---but I believe the economy is hosed no matter who wins this race. I think it's unrealistic how much hope we pin upon Presidents to change everything under the sun and within a short time frame. Obama was bound to disappoint based upon his inflated promises prior to his win in 2008. Stopping the rise of the oceans? Really? It's also hard to get inspired to vote for Romney because he's this cycle's "lesser evil." Ugh.

[Buford]

I hate to be negative---it is so easy to do so in political threads---but I believe the economy is hosed no matter who wins this race. I think it's unrealistic how much hope we pin upon Presidents to change everything under the sun and within a short time frame. Obama was bound to disappoint based upon his inflated promises prior to his win in 2008. Stopping the rise of the oceans? Really? It's also hard to get inspired to vote for Romney because he's this cycle's "lesser evil." Ugh.

For whatever reason, a lot of voters don't understand when Europe has big bad economic news, why we suffer. Part of it is general ignorance, the other part is that during an election, we're told its all on our leaders by the guys who want their jobs.

[deejaydana]

For whatever reason, a lot of voters don't understand when Europe has big bad economic news, why we suffer. Part of it is general ignorance, the other part is that during an election, we're told its all on our leaders by the guys who want their jobs.

True enough. If I was the Romney camp I'd just use Europe as a cautionary tale against Obama. "You want that kind of future?" There are a thousand ways for Romney to yet address Obama and turn things back on him. I just keep thinking how much time we still have till Nov and it seems like forever. This board is particularly engaged politically but at large it's true most people don't latch upon the election for another couple months at least.

[Buford]

True enough. If I was the Romney camp I'd just use Europe as a cautionary tale against Obama. "You want that kind of future?" There are a thousand ways for Romney to yet address Obama and turn things back on him. I just keep thinking how much time we still have till Nov and it seems like forever. This board is particularly engaged politically but at large it's true most people don't latch upon the election for another couple months at least.

With Romney being tied to hiding money over there, and being an international businessman, unless he has specific steps to not have our markets impacted when Europe has problems. Its a loser issue for him.

What it would be is a cautionary tale for somebody who wins not on the economy and sets realistic expectations of what things will be like, That's all.

[deejaydana]

With Romney being tied to hiding money over there, and being an international businessman, unless he has specific steps to not have our markets impacted when Europe has problems. Its a loser issue for him.

What it would be is a cautionary tale for somebody who wins not on the economy and sets realistic expectations of what things will be like, That's all.

I read an article this weekend that contended 90+% of the voting public have most likley made up their mind and that all this electioneering is thus aimed at the remaining 10% who are undecided. Can Obama's camp drag the 'Romney as dirty biznessman' story another 4-5 months effectively? I don't see it actually as the Independents will more likely cast their vote on the state of the economy.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

I hate to be negative---it is so easy to do so in political threads---but I believe the economy is hosed no matter who wins this race. I think it's unrealistic how much hope we pin upon Presidents to change everything under the sun and within a short time frame. Obama was bound to disappoint based upon his inflated promises prior to his win in 2008. Stopping the rise of the oceans? Really? It's also hard to get inspired to vote for Romney because he's this cycle's "lesser evil." Ugh.

Not to mention none of our presidents get to decide how Europe deals with its problems... and Europe is probably the biggest problem right now.

[Buford]

I read an article this weekend that contended 90+% of the voting public have most likley made up their mind and that all this electioneering is thus aimed at the remaining 10% who are undecided. Can Obama's camp drag the 'Romney as dirty biznessman' story another 4-5 months effectively? I don't see it actually as the Independents will more likely cast their vote on the state of the economy.

Short Answer: Yes

We want a businessman to run our country. But we have one who doesn't want to explain in detail how he was successful personally along with the stories of the companies he operated with over that time. How do we know if those methods could be applied if he won't explain it? Remember how detailed Ross Perot was? That's what he needs to be like. Even if its boring at times. Be excited and detailed in what he'd do differently. Until then, its going to be "Romney got rich by outsourcing American jobs to China, India and Mexico. Romney stayed rich by hiding his gains in secret accounts around the world." even if the 2nd one isn't true. Just saying it isn't won't be enough.

Forget Obama for a minute. Put Romney in his own bubble. Why should we trust him? Start there.

Obviously it doesn't work like that and some careers are built on not being the other guy.