Romney/Ryan Lose 2012 Election Thread

[skinsfan_1215]

I'm just going to post this here....



Add to that that most of the super wealthy make most of their money from investments, which are taxed even lower, AND they easily find ways to hide income… and you’ve got a system that relies far too much on tax dollars from the consumer class.

I wonder what raising the ACTUAL upper tax bracket (including income from investments) to about 50% would do for middle class taxes. Maybe people pay no taxes on the first $50k? Maybe more? That is how you stimulate the economy, by putting money in the hands of people that spend the hell out of it, not people who invest it in banks that piss it away or in Chinese companies so they can expand their factories.

[skinsmarydu]

1215, thank you for that dose of reality. (No sarcasm.) There's a post in the Obama thread that relates to this. We need consumer spending. And the average consumer is just barely hanging on, or has already lost everything. Does anyone truly believe in their heart of hearts that Mitt Romney gives a crap? He wants middle class tax increases so the upper class can have bigger tax breaks. Is this what some Americans think is good for the country? Really?

[visionary]

No one is saying he did anything illegal. They are saying Romney is a living example of why the super-wealthy don't need a tax reduction.

I said he was implying it. That's part of the benefit of Reid's statement in that he can make it sound as if Romney is doing something illegal.
Because when most people hear someone isn't paying taxes that is the first thing that comes to mind.
(Also there was that issue with Romney's supposedly lying under oath that was being pushed as well a few weeks back.
I don't recall if he was ever charged over that.)

[Kilmer17]

1215, thank you for that dose of reality. (No sarcasm.) There's a post in the Obama thread that relates to this. We need consumer spending. And the average consumer is just barely hanging on, or has already lost everything. Does anyone truly believe in their heart of hearts that Mitt Romney gives a crap? He wants middle class tax increases so the upper class can have bigger tax breaks. Is this what some Americans think is good for the country? Really?

The average consumer is barely hanging on because of the actions and onbvious inactions of Obama and the Dem controlled Congress from 2006-2010. And the further lackadaisical attitude and spiteful behavior by the Senate.

Let's stay the course! Things are awesome right now.

[visionary]

Watch it, TSF. You don't want to be in-between a man's baseball bat and the straw fellow he is swinging it at.

Kind of insulting.
I never swing at straw, I burn it away.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

I said he was implying it. That's part of the benefit of Reid's statement in that he can make it sound as if Romney is doing something illegal.
Because when most people hear someone isn't paying taxes that is the first thing that comes to mind.
(Also there was that issue with Romney's supposedly lying under oath that was being pushed as well a few weeks back.
I don't recall if he was ever charged over that.)

I didn't see any implication that anything was illegal. I just read it as "this guy makes so much money he doesn't have to pay taxes."

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The average consumer is barely hanging on because of the actions and onbvious inactions of Obama and the Dem controlled Congress from 2006-2010. And the further lackadaisical attitude and spiteful behavior by the Senate.

Let's stay the course! Things are awesome right now.

Classic Kilmer.

[visionary]

I didn't see any implication that anything was illegal. I just read it as "this guy makes so much money he doesn't have to pay taxes."

That's what you make of it, because you follow politics closely.
To random people who hear the statement on the news, they might not assume that at all.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

That's what you make of it, because you follow politics closely.
To random people who hear the statement on the news, they might not assume that at all.

Ok... anything is possible. And I'm sure some people will at least ask if its illegal to not pay taxes. I just don't think that was the intent of Reid. I think Reid is playing politics here, not district attorney.

[skinsfan_1215]

The average consumer is barely hanging on because of the actions and onbvious inactions of Obama and the Dem controlled Congress from 2006-2010. And the further lackadaisical attitude and spiteful behavior by the Senate.

Let's stay the course! Things are awesome right now.

The average American consumer has been pissed on since Reagan. Would Obama fundamentally change the course? Not likely. Would Romney expand those abusive policies and further shift the tax burden away from rich people and onto the consumer class? Absolutely.

[Larry]

IF Reid was simply calling for full disclosure you might be right,he is instead alleging a fact while saying he does not know

I certainly support full disclosure and open records from every candidate for POTUS....and wish it was mandated

care to clarify what argument I have put forth?

That the Birthers are Obama's fault, because all he has to do to prove them wrong is release every document they're demanding?

I'm absolutely certain that I saw that argument made. Probably 100 times. (I'm just not sure it was you, making it.)

You know. People who were "simply demanding full disclosure".

[Kilmer17]

The average American consumer has been pissed on since Reagan. Would Obama fundamentally change the course? Not likely. Would Romney expand those abusive policies and further shift the tax burden away from rich people and onto the consumer class? Absolutely.

Sure thing. Let's stay the course. It's working.

Todays job numbers show unemployment is where????? Oh that's right, it's still Bush's fault.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

Sure thing. Let's stay the course. It's working.

Todays job numbers show unemployment is where????? Oh that's right, it's still Bush's fault.

Again:

You come in here and lay it all on the feet of Obama and the democrat controlled congress. Now, Kilmer the Victim comes to town.

Is Romney not going to "stay the course" on economic policies of Bush? Are his policies somehow different than those of the President who was in office when the economy crumbled?

[Larry]

The average consumer is barely hanging on because of the actions and onbvious inactions of Obama and the Dem controlled Congress from 2006-2010.

Y'know, drugs are bad for you.

[Kilmer17]

Again:

You come in here and lay it all on the feet of Obama and the democrat controlled congress. Now, Kilmer the Victim comes to town.

Is Romney not going to "stay the course" on economic policies of Bush? Are his policies somehow different than those of the President who was in office when the economy crumbled?

The buck stops here!!!!!

At least that's what the left wing screams and cries when a GOPer is in the WH.

I feel sorry for Obama, after he wins in November, he's going to have to blame his first term for all of his problems.

[visionary]

Ok... anything is possible. And I'm sure some people will at least ask if its illegal to not pay taxes. I just don't think that was the intent of Reid. I think Reid is playing politics here, not district attorney.

Honestly the first thing I thought when I heard that Romney supposedly hadn't paid taxes was that he was doing something crooked and maybe had gotten caught at it.
I think there is an element there in that sort of statement that can send the mind to thinking of a gangster or corrupt businessmen assuming they can get away with such a simple method of breaking the law.
I don't know if he intended to paint Romney as a crook specifically, but I think for many the instant link in the back of their mind will be there.

Which may not be very nice, but it sure is useful politics.
Of course it would be really interesting if Romney actually was up to something illegal.
Plus it would be fun watching people try to find a replacement.