The Mess going on at Penn state Thread

[chipwhich]

He did know, the GA went right to him and the next day they both met with the AD and Pres. It's not like Paterno said "Oh well, I don't care".

It was reported in 2002.

It's 2011.

Man up and take a stand.

[Slacky McSlackAss]

It was reported in 2002.

It's 2011.

Man up and take a stand.

Then say the same about the GA (McQueary), he saw the incident first hand. Quit attacking Paterno and his character.

[Heisenberg]

Then say the same about the GA (McQueary), he saw the incident first hand. Quit attacking Paterno and his character.

The more I think about this the more I think there is no way that McQueary survives this.

He's the head recruiter - how is he going to walk into houses and convince parents that their kids will be taken care of at Penn State.

[chipwhich]

Then say the same about the GA (McQueary), he saw the incident first hand. Quit attacking Paterno and his character.

I did, they all should be fired.

Pathetic.

[Slacky McSlackAss]

The more I think about this the more I think there is no way that McQueary survives this.

He's the head recruiter - how is he going to walk into houses and convince parents that their kids will be taken care of at Penn State.

McQueary will be gone, Joe Pa will retire at the end of the year, and PSU will be left in a giant hole struggling to recover. This is going to destroy the program which is already struggling to keep up as it is.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

From what I know so far....the grad assistant was McQueary. God bless him for actually reporting it. That could not have been easy.

It seems like Paterno followed the letter of the law. The university administration certainly did not follow the law.

I love Paterno, but at some point, shouldn't he have asked, "Hey...whatever happened to that thing with Sandusky?"

Penn State banned Sandusky from bringing kids to the football facilities in 2002...which is pretty strong evidence that they knew what was going on. But - and this is amazing - Sandusky was holding overnight football camps at the staellite campuses until 2008.

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The more I think about this the more I think there is no way that McQueary survives this.

He's the head recruiter - how is he going to walk into houses and convince parents that their kids will be taken care of at Penn State.

I think McQueary is the only one who showed any character at all. He was a grad assistant and Sandusky was a living legend. And he reported him. Maybe he could have raised a larger stink, but if Paterno, the AD, and the administration weren't, I can see why he would have backed off.

[skinsarel33t]

Paterno is God at PSU he wont be fired and he will not resign at the end of the season the only way this would kill paterno is if he was molesting boys other than that he will be their till he dies and u can take that to the bank

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Paterno is God at PSU he wont be fired and he will not resign at the end of the season the only way this would kill paterno is if he was molesting boys other than that he will be their till he dies and u can take that to the bank

Huh?

[skinsarel33t]

Huh?

All the ppl who say paterno will be gone must not follow penn state. Because Paterno is a God there and nothing will take him out of penn state ever

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

All the ppl who say paterno will be gone must not follow penn state. Because Paterno is a God there and nothing will take him out of penn state ever

Knowing that his top assistant for 30 years was molesting kids might actually be enough to budge him. I've followed Penn State since Curt Warner's days. I love Paterno. I think he needs to go.

Also, sentences are your friend.

[Slacky McSlackAss]

All the ppl who say paterno will be gone must not follow penn state. Because Paterno is a God there and nothing will take him out of penn state ever

He was going to retire at the end of the year anyways (his contract is up), he will go in peace but this will be a black mark on his legacy.

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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind..._step_dow.html

And it begins

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

He was going to retire at the end of the year anyways (his contract is up), he will go in peace but this will be a black mark on his legacy.

Paterno is never going to retire of his own free will. The only person who could tell him to do so and make him listen is Sue. I suspect she will make a strong argument in January.

[fullnelson9999]

All the ppl who say paterno will be gone must not follow penn state. Because Paterno is a God there and nothing will take him out of penn state ever

Woody Hayes was a god at Ohio State.

Bob Knight was a god at Indiana.

etc, etc, etc.

I'm going to wait a bit before I really pass judgment, but if Paterno ends up being at fault for any of this, it'll be worse than throwing chairs across a basketball court and being a prick or punching a rival player in the neck.

Being a "god" means nothing.

[visionary]

Wondering if someone will do a Bang Style rant on coaches and atheletic directers.


Terrible story by the way. Sad to see yet another case of people covering up for **** like this.
(Also makes you wonder just how prevalent this kind of thing really is)

[elkabong82]

Paterno is God at PSU he wont be fired and he will not resign at the end of the season the only way this would kill paterno is if he was molesting boys other than that he will be their till he dies and u can take that to the bank

Even if he isn't, IMO he should be. The incident reported to him by McQueary was 9 years ago. Paterno and Sandusky knew each other well enough, and Sandusky was still around PSU and satellite campuses after '02. So Paterno not only knew that Sandusky saw little reprimand for his actions, but apparently also never questioned Schultz nor Curley again about it, and for 9 years later there's no way he didn't hear of, or maybe even see, Sandusky around other kids, and had that doubt about him from the '02 incident, yet Paterno never took it any further. He should have reported it to the police. Poor enforcement by your superiors is not an excuse. When they failed to act, Paterno should have gone to the next highest authority, the police, and gone directly to the school President. But he failed to act, and should face the consequences, same with McQueary for failing to follow through with police when no actions were taken against Sandusky. He's a recruiter now, so it could be he decided not to act on it further out of desire to keep good ties with the coaching staff he wanted to work for.

If it was your kid, would you forgive Paterno?

A lot of PSU heads are going to roll over this, and Paterno's legacy won't likely fully escape it, though because of his coaching career and the fact he did at least report the incident to his superiors, his reputation may not be completely tarnished, he could escape like Roethlisberger or Vick, though their legacies are, at the least, tainted.. Every single person who knew about an incident and failed to report it to police when Sandusky received no punishment, is responsible, this includes the the person from Public Welfare and the detective who interviewed Sandusky on the '98 incident.. Had police been involved early, the later incidents could have been stopped.

Very shameful events that's unfolding