Not Knowing Starting QB

[NLC1054]

Didn't we all pretty much know Rex was going to start this game as soon as Doc said he had big news?

Maybe the players were sort of taken a back, but let's not act like they go in the huddle and all the sudden they saw Rex and they were like "WHOA, DUDE, IT'S YOU THIS WEEK!?". Rex and Beck split reps during practice all week, and all the players would've known who was the starter well before the game started. It's kinda nutty that Mike didn't let everyone know sooner, but it's not that big a deal. Not sure knowing which quarterback would've changed the outcome, and the offense took a minimal step forward despite it. Didn't seem like the players were deeply affected by the shift from a godawful quarterback to a mediocre one.

[Destino]

Didn't we all pretty much know Rex was going to start this game as soon as Doc said he had big news?

Maybe the players were sort of taken a back, but let's not act like they go in the huddle and all the sudden they saw Rex and they were like "WHOA, DUDE, IT'S YOU THIS WEEK!?". Rex and Beck split reps during practice all week, and all the players would've known who was the starter well before the game started. It's kinda nutty that Mike didn't let everyone know sooner, but it's not that big a deal. Not sure knowing which quarterback would've changed the outcome, and the offense took a minimal step forward despite it. Didn't seem like the players were deeply affected by the shift from a godawful quarterback to a mediocre one.

People keep making this argument. There is a difference between knowing (it's official) and evidence that it is likely or possible. So yes we all "pretty much knew" but they didn't ask him if he suspected Rex would start or who he thought would start.

[SWFLSkins]

It was more fun to listen to Spurrier, on top of it all!

I don't know, Zorn and Spurrier were difficult to listen to, I also am starting to wonder when Shannahan is going to give us the fans some straight talk. Even Gibbs had a way of reaming the team in a nice way. This guy is starting to make me think either this is all planned or he is living in a alternative universe, like bizzaro world where losing like this is okay.

[thesubmittedone]

People keep making this argument. There is a difference between knowing (it's official) and evidence that it is likely or possible. So yes we all "pretty much knew" but they didn't ask him if he suspected Rex would start or who he thought would start.

So is this a big deal or not? Is it important enough to start a thread about and call Shanahan a derogatory name? Was Gaffney angry about it or just answering the question nonchalantly?

I have a feeling the answer to those questions are no, hell no, and nonchalantly.

[JoeSkins]

I don't know, Zorn and Spurrier were difficult to listen to, I also am starting to wonder when Shannahan is going to give us the fans some straight talk. Even Gibbs had a way of reaming the team in a nice way. This guy is starting to make me think either this is all planned or he is living in a alternative universe, like bizzaro world where losing like this is okay.

Come on now, Spurrier's twang and southern colloquialisms were pretty entertaining! I know what you mean about Shanny though, but we all know, that's classic Shanny. He was BB before BB.

[Bang]

If both QBs took about the same reps in practice, I don't see what the problem would be.
Both QBs have played this year with the offense, and the players should be able to play for either one at this point.
If we were making a change from a starter to a backup who had not played at all this year and had not practiced with the starters, then I'd be more inclined to agree with the OPs complaint.
To me the only difference is that if it's Beck, the receivers don't have to do much, because he won't throw it.
If it's Rex, they need to practice some tackling drills.

~Bang

[SWFLSkins]

Come on now, Spurrier's twang and southern colloquialisms were pretty entertaining! I know what you mean about Shanny though, but we all know, that's classic Shanny. He was BB before BB.

Well I went to Georgia so maybe I am partial, I hated SS.

[JoeSkins]

Well I went to Georgia so maybe I am partial, I hated SS.

Duly noted; withdrawn. You get a pass for that, haha

[B&GVol24]

If both QBs took about the same reps in practice, I don't see what the problem would be.
Both QBs have played this year with the offense, and the players should be able to play for either one at this point.
If we were making a change from a starter to a backup who had not played at all this year and had not practiced with the starters, then I'd be more inclined to agree with the OPs complaint.
To me the only difference is that if it's Beck, the receivers don't have to do much, because he won't throw it.
If it's Rex, they need to practice some tackling drills.

~Bang

Not much to add, but this made me laugh

But I agree, it'd be different if we were making the switch to a guy that hasn't played, but the WRs have caught passes from both Beck and Rex all week and know what to expect from either. This offense is built around taking care of your own personal assignment; QB, although important, shouldn't change how the WRs play.

[Destino]

So is this a big deal or not? Is it important enough to start a thread about and call Shanahan a derogatory name? Was Gaffney angry about it or just answering the question nonchalantly?

I have a feeling the answer to those questions are no, hell no, and nonchalantly.

I think it's a big deal when you look at everything happening. Shanahan is working both QBs during the week to decide who to start. The skins are letting players go and signing a bunch of guys off the street. The starting running back is different every week. The offense is starting to look like we're in the preseason and it seems that the coach has lost all of his patience with this group.

I don't think that says anything negative or positive at this point however.

[THEREALTOR1]

Did anybody actually bitching about this even watch the ****ing game? Even the announcers said before the game started that they knew about Rex getting the start since yesterday when they did their pregame meetings/interviews (even joking about how they did such a good job keeping it out of the media until today). If Jabar wasn't paying enough attention that he missed what everybody and their ****ing brother knew, including the tv announcers, then he's about as ****ing stupid as this thread.

[Destino]

Duly noted; withdrawn. You get a pass for that, haha

The whole situation reminds me of the Simpsons "citizen Kang".


"Don't blame me I voted for Kodos"

Rex or Beck? Doesn't matter.
Coach? Other than Gibbs they've all done the same thing.

[Redskin Diehard]

So if we dont win 3 more games this season then you wanna start all over again?

Why are people so scared to start over around here? If what you're doing isn't working why prolong the inevitable? Its not like you would be getting rid of an offensive scheme or for that matter a defensive scheme that's producing. I'm not scared of change. I think Shanahan is trying to do it the old school way... which is noble but... it aint working. We need better players at the end of the day. I will grant you that. A primetime QB should be the first order of business. Shanny&Son staked their reputation on Grossman and Beck as legitimate NFL starters and as a result, I have absolutely no confidence in their player evaluation abilities at this point.

I been saying this for years now and I wont back off of my position on this because its the chink in our armour. The coaches son occupying arguably the most important position on the coaching staff will always be the elephant in the room as long as Shanny is here. He is never going to side with anyone against his son and he will never do anything that would jeopardize Baby Shanny's coaching prospects going forward. I just can't seem to get comfortable with that dynamic long term.

Let me ask you this? If we lose out and end up going 3 and 13, will you still believe in the Shannys? It aint about the win/loss record dude. The plan we currently have in place aint working. We have scored 1 TD in the last 3 games and that score came during garbage time against a prevent defense. Unbelievable... SMH (scratching my head)

[campbellcooleyconnection]

it certainly seems it's not going to work with the shannys......sucks!

[Stophovr6]

it certainly seems it's not going to work with the shannys......sucks!

It has to work. I don't see any other way at this point. They are going to finally swallow their pride and draft a QB, then we will see what they are made of. They better pick the right one though, or it's going to get even uglier in DC than the Cerrato fiasco.