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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    DVR'ed the game, watched the 2nd half this morning. I know they are letting the O-Line hold rushers, but it is really getting bad. Rak was literally in a bear hug on the one handed catch Fasano made. Maybe one of us needs to create a holding highlight reel and send it to the NFL officials and the Washington Post.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by STBonecrusher21 View Post
    I get where your coming from, but Rak was going up against Jake Long all day long. I think even Reggie White would have trouble getting by that dude.
    You can't just quit though. Even the best blockers can give up sacks. Letting the guy not have worry about you at all on about 50% of the pass plays is not going to help your chances. If everyone wants Orakpo to be a great player, then he has to be able to beat other greats. I don't care how good Jake Long is, you put pressure on him and keep him honest!
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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by sempre_victrix View Post
    DVR'ed the game, watched the 2nd half this morning. I know they are letting the O-Line hold rushers, but it is really getting bad. Rak was literally in a bear hug on the one handed catch Fasano made. Maybe one of us needs to create a holding highlight reel and send it to the NFL officials and the Washington Post.
    Or perhaps send it to Mike Pereira and ask him to explain wtf a holding call actually is. I'm sure he would have some kind of spin on it to where it's legal blocking though.
    Dammit Mike...bout time you drafted some linemen!!!

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    I honestly think that the word has come down that rushers are bigger and faster these days and that to save a multitude of QB injuries, look the other way on some holding. Some of the other ames I've watched, non-Redskins, and the ends were being held time and time again, if the definition of holding in the rule book is to be used.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by STBonecrusher21 View Post
    I get where your coming from, but Rak was going up against Jake Long all day long. I think even Reggie White would have trouble getting by that dude.
    exactly, Long owned Orakpo on basically every rush... and maybe they trust orakpo more in coverage than Kerrigan? but a more possible reason would be the fact the Kerrigan was owning their RT who i believe was Colombo.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONAWARPATH View Post
    Of course not.
    I dont understand why we cant move him around like good teams good. If their LT is a beast no problem slide him over on 3rd down and make him work against a mediocre guard or right tackle.

    I notice redskins are the only team that fails to help their players in matchups.

    Other great teams double a good wr with a safety and 2nd corner leaving their #1 cb one on one with their 2nd best wr. What do the redskins do leave dhall alone against the top WR.
    Lets win some f'n gamres

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Rak does get held a lot..but don't act like he's the only pass rusher in the NFL that gets held a lot. He simply HAS to develop some more moves...if not, he will never be dominant.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bat~man View Post
    Rak does get held a lot..but don't act like he's the only pass rusher in the NFL that gets held a lot. He simply HAS to develop some more moves...if not, he will never be dominant.
    Still trying to figure out what moves get you out of a chokehold other than an elbow the gut or stepping on a guy's toes or something...

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by NLC1054 View Post
    Still trying to figure out what moves get you out of a chokehold other than an elbow the gut or stepping on a guy's toes or something...
    Well, if the O-line expects nothing but a bull rush... the it's easy to hold the guy. If he's going up against a guy who also has a nasty spin move..then trying to get your arms in and hold the guy can backfire on you.

    And as much as we want. let's not exaggerate the situation... Rak is not in a chokehold every time he rushes the passer. I know we all want to believe the NFL and the officials are against us and that's why we suck, but.. it just isn't the case. Sorry

    Pass rushers get held, the calls get missed a lot, it's a fact of life. The "good" pass rushers still find a way to be disruptive..
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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Rak and Kerrigan are the type of dudes that need to have their hand in the dirt and rush almost every down. But I think they are still beasting in this scheme and yea I think thats a lil high.
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    This is what a 3-4 linebacker is supposed to do. The most famous play of James Harrison's career is an interception.

    It's unfortunate that Orakpo is not particularly good at this key requirement of his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANSKINS98 View Post
    Rak and Kerrigan are the type of dudes that need to have their hand in the dirt and rush almost every down. But I think they are still beasting in this scheme and yea I think thats a lil high.
    DId you really just use "beasting" as a verb?

    Don't do that again.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi's_kid_brother View Post
    DId you really just use "beasting" as a verb?

    Don't do that again.
    hahahaha I can't promise you that
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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi's_kid_brother View Post
    DId you really just use "beasting" as a verb?

    Don't do that again.
    I apologize that I don't have anything to add, but this made me

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    It's a common way to attack a 34 D. The offense uses formations that force the outside backer into coverage because most backers are not that good at it. So instead of allowing the rush linebacker to attack the passer the offense will try to keep him off by forcing him into coverage.

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    Default Re: Inexplicable: Brian Orakpo dropped into coverage on 14 of Matt Moore's 29 passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    That's the joy of having two very good/elite pass rushers. You get to mix it up. I agree that that is a little high, but it's not a necessity that they both rush 85-90% of the time. You try to confuse the O. If the O is keying on Orakpo, you might drop him a little more often and rush from the other side. If they're keying Kerrigan, then you rush Orakpo. You can't just pin the ears back on both of them every play.
    While I agree that you can't always be predictable, Orakpo is clearly uncomfortable & out of place in coverage situations. He should be one of those guys that stays at the line & is either rushing the passer or stopping the run. I can't stand seeing him in coverage. It is NOT his strong suit.

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