HuffPo: UC Davis Police Pepper-Spray Seated Students In Occupy Dispute (VIDEO) (UPDATES)

[Teller]

I agree. Police should employ pepper spray for every arrest, regardless of the circumstances. Arrests with pepper spray are better than arrests without it..

Nothing new from you, I see. You wanted the other dude to quote the Constitution. Quote where I said anything resembling that. Actually I'll be polite, and let you know that you can't; because I didn't. Classic Larry. Make **** up, then argue with it. Well done.

[twa]

I agree it did not really help(and was very bad press),but it remains a viable standard below actual force.

Perhaps a more sensible bunch will learn from it in the future .

[The Evil Genius]

I wonder also had this happened closer to home for many of y'all - say at Virginia Tech or at JMU - if the positions would be slightly different.

Since it's in hippie liberal California - then all the protestors must be in the wrong, correct?

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I agree it did not really help(and was very bad press),but it remains a viable standard below actual.

Perhaps a more sensible bunch will learn from it in the future force.

I suspect the key lesson learned will be not to employ pepper spray on students when they are protesting simply by sitting with arms linked.

It's going to cost some police (and a police chief likely) their jobs.

[Kilmer17]

They would be in the wrong no matter the geography. The school asked the cops to disperse them. The cops asked, the students refused.

At JMU, at UCD, at NOVA CC. It's still the same result. They needed to leave.

The school and police had the authority to tell them to leave. Failing to do so earned them their just desserts. Next time follow the law.

[Chachie]

What's so weird about all this to me is that police officers are underpaid and underappreciated... just like the 99% they are being ordered to control. Who's doing the ordering? Elected officials who become part of the 1%. This is tragic.

[Teller]

It's going to cost some police (and a police chief likely) their jobs.

It absolutely will not, and should not. (Unless hippie-liberal California overreacts. [Your word choice, not mine.])

[twa]

I wonder also had this happened closer to home for many of y'all - say at Virginia Tech or at JMU - if the positions would be slightly different.

Since it's in hippie liberal California - then all the protestors must be in the wrong, correct?

---------- Post added November-21st-2011 at 10:35 AM ----------



I suspect the key lesson learned will be not to employ pepper spray on students when they are protesting simply by sitting with arms linked.

It's going to cost some police (and a police chief likely) their jobs.

I would have preferred opening up with the paint ball guns....them puppies will get ya moving

It may very well cost some jobs, which is why you end up with **** like firemen watching somebody drown.....enjoy the results?

How do you enjoy the costs from injuries both to the police and legal bills from the protesters injuries?

[AsburySkinsFan]

It may very well cost some jobs, which is why you end up with **** like firemen watching somebody drown.....enjoy the results?

AHAHAHAHAHAH you must be trolling us, this routine has to be a major joke you're pulling on us here at ES, the problem is that it is so absurd that it is showing itself as a cartoon.

[Chachie]

Retired police chief at OWS giving some good input and perspective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkOMD...&feature=share

[visionary]

It may very well cost some jobs, which is why you end up with **** like firemen watching somebody drown.....enjoy the results?

Pepper spraying children keeps them from drowning?

[AsburySkinsFan]

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Damn hippie.

---------- Post added November-21st-2011 at 01:54 PM ----------

Police Chief Suspended as well as the two officers who used the pepper spray
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...ice-chief.html

Another shoe dropped at UC Davis, where the university has put its police chief on administrative leave over a viral video in which police officers are shown pepper-spraying peaceful student protesters on campus. The two officers who used the pepper spray have also been put on leave. In a statement, the president of the University of California network said he was “appalled” by the video, and also ordered a review of campus law-enforcement policy across the system's 10 locations. Students were participating in a sit-in to show their support for the Occupy Wall Street movement.

[Larry]

Nothing new from you, I see. You wanted the other dude to quote the Constitution. Quote where I said anything resembling that. Actually I'll be polite, and let you know that you can't; because I didn't. Classic Larry. Make **** up, then argue with it. Well done.

I did quote you. When you said that pepper spraying people made them easier to arrest.

pepper spray PREVENTS far more injuries than it causes.

---------- Post added November-21st-2011 at 02:01 PM ----------

I agree it did not really help(and was very bad press),but it remains a viable standard below actual force.

It is actual force. No matter how many times you try to spin it otherwise.

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They would be in the wrong no matter the geography. The school asked the cops to disperse them. The cops asked, the students refused.

At JMU, at UCD, at NOVA CC. It's still the same result. They needed to leave.

The school and police had the authority to tell them to leave. Failing to do so earned them their just desserts. Next time follow the law.

Still waiting for you to quote the part of the Constitution that says that.

I've quoted the part that says they were within their rights.

[Teller]

lol, whatever dude, they were gingerly walking around the protesters, there wasn't any emergency

I don't know of any job that gets so many benefits of the doubt

if it's a crime, take the ****ing time to solve it, if it's not then **** off

You're the one taking the unreasonable position. Explain to me how your photo match plan works. I can't wait to hear it.

[Larry]

Pepper spraying children keeps them from drowning?

I think his latest spin is to attempt to argue that if you announce that police officers can't assault people who are peacefully sitting on a sidewalk, in front of cameras, and get away with it, then that might cause certain police officers to leave the department, or to not join.

He's probably right.

[Teller]

I did quote you. When you said that pepper spraying people made them easier to arrest.

I said it prevents more injuries than it causes; which is absolutely and unequivocally true.