Did Anyone Watch The American Music Awards?

[The Evil Genius]

What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made.

Except auto-tune has allowed no talent ass clowns or middling talent ass clowns to become famous.

That technology didn't exist a generation ago.

---------- Post added November-20th-2012 at 07:24 AM ----------

Now, can anyone tell me what the **** Bieber's pants were? Or why he was wearing a girls shirt? Or why he looked like Dark Helmet in that oversized hat? Or why he still looks like the prototypical lesbian? Albeit, not a smart one judging by his reaction to be kissed by Jenny McCarthy.

[Dan T.]

Except auto-tune has allowed no talent ass clowns or middling talent ass clowns to become famous.

That technology didn't exist a generation ago.

A generation ago, studios had 16 track recording units that could overdub out the wazoo so that the guy who played Starsky (or Hutch?) could "sing" a hit record.

[pjfootballer]

Bieber is normally the whipping boy for everyone who craps on "Today's music," but I think Nikki Minaj is the worst out of all of them. She's annoying, her voice is annoying, the way she looks is annoying, with all the cotton candy she puts on her head and 8 jars of makeup she puts on her face, and her music is terrible.

Add in Lady Gaga. She actually doesn't look too bad without all the crap she puts on.

[The Evil Genius]

A generation ago, studios had 16 track recording units that could overdub out the wazoo so that the guy who played Starsky (or Hutch?) could "sing" a hit record.

Did he have multiple hit records like the douches at the AMA on Sunday night?

The people who had overdubbed hit records were usually flash in the pan, one-off records that they could never strike gold again. The industry insured that the real talent eventually won out in the end.

I'm not that industry still does.

[Dan T.]

Did he have multiple hit records like the douches at the AMA on Sunday night?

The people who had overdubbed hit records were usually flash in the pan, one-off records that they could never strike gold again. The industry insured that the real talent eventually won out in the end.

I'm not that industry still does.

You're kidding yourself. For every 70's classic I could counter with a "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo." Same with the 80s and 90s. Nostalgia warps perspective.

[Renegade7]

I wish Nikki Minaj would quit the pop star act and get back to rapping. That's her true strength, and she's damn good at it when she wants to be, imo...

[DM72]

What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made.

Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years.

[Mr. Sinister]

Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years.

Spoken truly like someone who only listens to oldies and sees a few popular, yet crappy artists, and decides that (with his severely limited knowledge) that all current music sucks

[DM72]

You're kidding yourself. For every 70's classic I could counter with a "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo." Same with the 80s and 90s. Nostalgia warps perspective.

Dan, please. Like Evil Genius said, the no talented wonders of back in the day were no awarded like these people are today. Case in point, just go Google up the list of legendary artist that has never won a Grammy while people like Brittney Spears have a slew of them.

PS: Justin Bieber is gonna end up as a more celebrated artist than artist like Marvin Gaye and Rod Stewart.

---------- Post added November-20th-2012 at 06:56 PM ----------

Spoken truly like someone who only listens to oldies and sees a few popular, yet crappy artists, and decides that (with his severely limited knowledge) that all current music sucks

I listen to quite.a bit of contemporary music and it just isn't that good. There are a few good artist, but for the most part, they take a back seat to entertainers like Beiber and Minaj.

[Mr. Sinister]

DM, you're confusing popularity with vocal ability. There are a ton of talented artists who couldn't reach a certain level of popularity because they didn't have the "Look." If popularity was soley based on someone's ability to sing, or lyrical quality people like Nicki Minaj would not exist. Being a popular artist is about more than that, and some people can pull it off better than others. No one is going to take your Marvin Gaye away from you. He is one of the greatest R&B artists of all time.

No one forgot about Beethoven because of the Beatles. No one is going to forget about Marvin Gaye because of Bieber (not that he is even anywhere near that level). And just because someone wins an award doesn't always necessarily mean that they are a great artist, and just because someone may even win a slew of awards over their career does not mean that they are better than another artist just for that reason.

[MLSKINS]

What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made.

Old Farts? I am 23 I will take old mainstream music over today's anytime of the week.

[DM72]

DM, you're confusing popularity with vocal ability. There are a ton of talented artists who couldn't reach a certain level of popularity because they didn't have the "Look." If popularity was soley based on someone's ability to sing, or lyrical quality people like Nicki Minaj would not exist. Being a popular artist is about more than that, and some people can pull it off better than others. No one is going to take your Marvin Gaye away from you. He is one of the greatest R&B artists of all time.

No one forgot about Beethoven because of the Beatles. No one is going to forget about Marvin Gaye because of Bieber (not that he is even anywhere near that level). And just because someone wins an award doesn't always necessarily mean that they are a great artist, and just because someone may even win a slew of awards over their career does not mean that they are better than another artist just for that reason.

Good points. But you just get tired of seeing people that aren't all that talented get rewarded year after year. And on too of that, some of these guys really need to be humbled. Justin Beiber addressing "haters." Nicki Minaj jumping in Mariah Carey's face? Do I need to bring up Kanye West? A lot of these people are just unlikable.

[sly]

What a bunch of old farts in here whining about how today's music sucks. "Today's music sucks" is an argument that has only been made by EVERY generation since music's been made.

Ding, ding.

Seriously, "back in my day" is such a tired argument. You'll hear plenty of that around the dinner tables this weekend. Each generation can go tit for tat on practically everything. 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's all had amazing music, as well as plenty of crap we'd like (and always do) forget. The influence an artist can have on future generations is impossible to predict, but technological advancements in recording and the ability of ANY ARTIST to reach the masses is the greatest it has ever been. Today... at this very moment... if you can't find good music... movies... TV shows... books... a nice local restaurant to take a date... it's your own damn fault. Open your eyes.

[Dan T.]

Do you think anybody's gonna be listening to todays garbage in years to come. Go to any sports stadium and you still hear 80's music pumping. Turn on the radio and you still hear songs from the 70s and 80s. I have a strange feeling you will not be hearing any Justin Bieber of Nicki Manaj in 20 years.

And what were stadiums in the 80s pumping? Music from the 60s and 70s.

Good music stands the test of time. The reason you still hear good music from the 70s and 80s is because there was some great, great music made back then. But there was also alot of drek recorded then too. ALOT of drek. The great songs still get played today. The drek is - thankfully - forgotten. Just as today's drek will be forgotten while the good stuff lasts.

Just last week I was long distance driving and while channel surfing I heard a snippet a radio station replaying a recording of Kasey Kasum's American Top 40. The one song I remember was James Taylor's How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You). I just looked it up and it came out in 1975. So here's the American Top 40 year-end survey from 1975:

AMERICAN TOP 40 YEAR-END SURVEY 1975


1975 Top 100

1 LOVE WILL KEEP US TOGETHER CAPTAIN & TENNILLE
2 RHINESTONE COWBOY GLEN CAMPBELL
3 PHILADELPHIA FREEDOM ELTON JOHN
4 BEFORE THE NEXT TEARDROP FALLS FREDDIE FENDER
5 MY EYES ADORED YOU FRANKIE VALLI
6 SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL GRAND FUNK
7 SHINING STAR EARTH, WIND & FIRE
8 FAME DAVID BOWIE
9 LAUGHTER IN THE RAIN NEIL SEDAKA
10 ONE OF THESE NIGHTS EAGLES
11 THANK GOD I'M A COUNTRY BOY JOHN DENVER
12 JIVE TALKIN' BEE GEES
13 BEST OF MY LOVE EAGLES
14 LOVING YOU MINNIE RIPERTON
15 KUNG-FU FIGHTING CARL DOUGLAS
16 BLACK WATER DOOBIE BROTHERS
17 BALL-ROOM BLITZ SWEET
18 HEY, WON'T YOU PLAY, ANOTHER SOMEBODY DONE SOMEBODY WRONG SONG B.J. THOMAS
19 HE DON'T LOVE YOU LIKE I DO TONY ORLANDO & DAWN
20 AT 17 JANIS IAN
21 PICK UP THE PIECES AVERAGE WHITE BAND
22 THE HUSTLE VAN MCCOY
23 LADY MARMALADE LABELLE
24 WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS WAR
25 LOVE WON'T LET ME WAIT MAJOR HARRIS
26 BOOGIE ON REGGIE WOMAN STEVIE WONDER
27 WASTED DAYS & WASTED NIGHTS FREDDIE FENDER (TIE)
27 ANGIE BABY HELEN REDDY (TIE)
29 FIGHT THE POWER ISLEY BROTHERS
30 JACKIE BLUE OZARK MOUNTAIN DAREDEVILS
31 FIRE OHIO PLAYERS
32 MAGIC PILOT
33 PLEASE MR. POSTMAN CARPENTERS
34 SISTER GOLDENHAIR AMERICA
35 LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS ELTON JOHN
36 MANDY BARRY MANILOW
37 HAVE YOU NEVER BEEN MELLOW OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN
38 COULD IT BE MAGIC BARRY MANILOW
39 CAT'S IN THE CRADLE HARRY CHAPIN
40 WILDFIRE MICHAEL MURPHY
41 I'M NOT LISA JESSE COLTER
42 LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAYS WINGS
43 I'M NOT IN LOVE 10CC
44 I CAN HELP BILLY SWAN
45 FALLING IN LOVE HAMILTON, JOE FRANK, & REYNOLDS
46 FEELINGS MORRIS ALBERT
47 WHEN WILL I BE LOVED LINDA RONSTADT
48 CHEVY VAN SAMMY JOHNS
49 YOU'RE THE FIRST, MY LAST, MY EVERYTHING BARRY WHITE
50 PLEASE MR. PLEASE OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN
51 YOU'RE NO GOOD LINDA RONSTADT
52 DYNOMITE BAZOOKA
53 WALKING IN RHYTHM BLACKBYRDS
54 TRY TO REMEMBER GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS
55 MIDNIGHT BLUE MELISSA MANCHESTER
56 DON'T CALL US, WE'LL CALL YOU SUGARLOAF
57 POETRY MAN PHOEBE SNOW
58 HOW LONG ACE
59 EXPRESS B.T. EXPRESS
60 THAT'S THE WAY OF THE WORLD EARTH, WIND & FIRE
61 LADY STYX
62 BAD TIME GRAND FUNK
63 ONLY WOMEN ALICE COOPER
64 DOCTOR'S ORDERS CAROL DOUGLAS
65 GET DOWN TONIGHT K.C. & THE SUNSHINE BAND
66 ONE MAN WOMAN, ONE WOMAN MAN PAUL ANKA
67 YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL JOE COCKER
68 FEEL LIKE MAKIN' LOVE BAD COMPANY
69 HOW SWEET IT IS TO BE LOVED BY YOU JAMES TAYLOR
70 DANCE WITH ME ORLEANS
71 NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE GLORIA GAYNOR (TIE)
71 CUT THE CAKE AVERAGE WHITE BAND (TIE)
73 I DON'T LIKE TO SLEEP ALONE PAUL ANKA
74 MORNING SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN DONNY & MARIE OSMOND
75 WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN THREE DEGREES
76 GET DOWN GET DOWN JOE SIMON
77 I'M SORRY / CALYPSO JOHN DENVER
78 KILLER QUEEN QUEEN
79 SHOE-SHINE BOY EDDIE KENDRICKS
80 DO IT B.T. EXPRESS
81 CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA
82 SHA LA LA MAKES ME HAPPY AL GREEN
83 LONELY PEOPLE AMERICA
84 YOU GOT THE LOVE RUFUS
85 THE ROCKFORD FILES MIKE POST
86 IT ONLY TAKES A MINUTE TAVARES
87 THE NO-NO SONG RINGO STARR
88 JUNIOR'S FARM PAUL MCCARTNEY & WINGS
89 BUNGLE IN THE JUNGLE JETHRO TULL
90 LONG TALL GLASSES LEO SAYER
91 MISTY RAY STEVENS
92 SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT ELTON JOHN
93 BAD BLOOD NEIL SEDAKA
94 ONLY YESTERDAY CARPENTERS
95 I'M ON FIRE DWIGHT TWILLEY BAND
96 ONLY YOU RINGO STARR
97 YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET BACHMAN -TURNER OVERDRIVE (TIE)
97 THIRD-RATE ROMANCE AMAZING RHYTHM ACES (TIE)
99 SWEARIN' TO GOD FRANKIE VALLI
100 GET DANCIN' DISCOTHEQUE & THE SEX-O-LETTES


http://www.oldradioshows.com/at100/1975.html

I'll leave it to you to defend this list as soooo much better than music today. Because there is a whole lot of utterly forgetable crap in there. Along with a few gems.

[Kosher Ham]

Sorry Dan, but most of that stuff is comparable to todays pop garbage.

Not saying it was garbage or todays is garbage. Saying that it's not that much different as far as talent or star power.