Why FREESTYLIN why?

[THUNDERDOME]

and if you keep pinching the line in ....why would i run it up the middle thats what tosses are for....i run the counter because you man your safety....i try to get you going one way......and then i have speed backs...why wouldnt i try to run it outside......

[Dro89]

and if you keep pinching the line in ....why would i run it up the middle thats what tosses are for....i run the counter because you man your safety....i try to get you going one way......and then i have speed backs...why wouldnt i try to run it outside......

i will say this.. ive found that with speed backs the toss plays are somewhat money plays.. BUT.. they can be stopped.. just a ***** to stop sometimes... but i wouldnt quit over it.. id try to stop it.

[THUNDERDOME]

i will say this.. ive found that with speed backs the toss plays are somewhat money plays.. BUT.. they can be stopped.. just a ***** to stop sometimes... but i wouldnt quit over it.. id try to stop it.

and hes got speedy linebackers......

but honestly i didnt do anything different from the first time we played....he had nothing to say then and i took my loss even though i was down 31 10 at the half......

[freestyln]

and if you keep pinching the line in ....why would i run it up the middle thats what tosses are for....i run the counter because you man your safety....i try to get you going one way......and then i have speed backs...why wouldnt i try to run it outside......

I only pinched the line when you came out in a single back flex formation. Never on the run.........I'm not that ****ing dumb. ok, now that I think of it, you did run a 2 or 3 more plays,,,,,,,,,still though, you figured out that the other plays didn't work, so you stuck with the 3 clutch plays for the remaing of the 2nd & 3rd quarter..........so ye, I went for it because of that.

2. I didn't say ****, I said welcome to the playoffs, and even went out on ES and said I quit..........YET, you wanted me to talk...........sooooooooooooo

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 01:25 AM ----------

LL, do what you gotta do man. but sometimes these guys in the league..........I swear....

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 01:28 AM ----------

oh and no, you didn't run those tosses and counters over and over and over again when the other plays weren't working, you still tried to mix it up the first time we played, this time around, you just went with the clutching ones that worked over and over and over and over once you had a lead. Look, when I'm up, I run multiple run plays, different formations, not the same 2 run plays once your up to kill the clock.

[THUNDERDOME]

I only pinched the line when you came out in a single back flex formation. Never on the run.........I'm not that ****ing dumb. ok, now that I think of it, you did run a 2 or 3 more plays,,,,,,,,,still though, you figured out that the other plays didn't work, so you stuck with the 3 clutch plays for the remaing of the 2nd & 3rd quarter..........so ye, I went for it because of that.

2. I didn't say ****, I said welcome to the playoffs, and even went out on ES and said I quit..........YET, you wanted me to talk...........sooooooooooooo

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 01:25 AM ----------

LL, do what you gotta do man. but sometimes these guys in the league..........I swear....

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 01:28 AM ----------

oh and no, you didn't run those tosses and counters over and over and over again when the other plays weren't working, you still tried to mix it up the first time we played, this time around, you just went with the clutching ones that worked over and over and over and over once you had a lead. Look, when I'm up, I run multiple run plays, different formations, not the same 2 run plays once your up to kill the clock.

1 strong close counter,
2 singleback jumbo power O ( and this i scored a touchdown on, not a counter or toss),
3 i form twins hb power,
4 strong close quick toss,
5 i form tight toss
6 singleback trips wr lead reverse
7 i form twins lead toss
8 i form lead draw (you got a sack on this before my hb got the ball)
9 fb dive


i only had 14 runs.... heres 9 of em.....so i used some of these again......i didnt know we could only run each play once per game.....


EDIT:
and then i had 14 attempts for 126 yards
take away the 42 and 33 yard touchdown runs
that leaves me with 12 carries for 51 yards.....a whopping 4.25 average.....

14 attempts over 3 quarters is 4-5 runs a quarter

cmon man

and remember 1 was a fb dive....1 was a reverse to a halfback, and 1 my qb was sacked before handing off....

that leaves 11 runs over 3 quarters that u said i ran the same 1 or 2 plays........cmon man.......

[freestyln]

1 strong close counter,
2 singleback jumbo power O ( and this i scored a touchdown on, not a counter or toss),
3 i form twins hb power,
4 strong close quick toss,
5 i form tight toss
6 singleback trips wr lead reverse
7 i form twins lead toss
8 i form lead draw (you got a sack on this before my hb got the ball)
9 fb dive


i only had 14 runs.... heres 9 of em.....so i used some of these again......i didnt know we could only run each play once per game.....

oh hell no, this I will agree on

strong close quick toss

you came out with this in the 2nd and 3rd back to back, audible to a counter out of this formation

As I stated before, in the 1st, you came out with a few plays, didn't work, found out that this one did, and just ran with it

[THUNDERDOME]

oh hell no, this I will agree on

strong close quick toss

you came out with this in the 2nd and 3rd back to back, audible to a counter out of this formation

As I stated before, in the 1st, you came out with a few plays, didn't work, found out that this one did, and just ran with it

the default run audible out of new orleans playbook for the strong close formation is a gut run....try again.....

[freestyln]

the default run audible out of new orleans playbook for the strong close formation is a gut run....try again.....

Thanks for point out the playbook. Looking at it in practice and in that formation, there is a counter weak out of that formation with a pulling guard from the strong side to the weak. Don't EVEN tell me you were using the madden default audible run because there is a counter, but NO PULLING GUARD. I know for a FACT that every counter had a FB & pulling guard from the strong side. So don't give me that, Saints default audible crap, everyone edits them. Try again....

[THUNDERDOME]

Thanks for point out the playbook. Looking at it in practice and in that formation, there is a counter weak out of that formation with a pulling guard from the strong side to the weak. Don't EVEN tell me you were using the madden default audible run because there is a counter, but NO PULLING GUARD. I know for a FACT that every counter had a FB & pulling guard from the strong side. So don't give me that, Saints default audible crap, everyone edits them. Try again....

Dude when you audible, theres quick pass, deep pass, PA pass, and run
the run audible when im in that strong close formation is a HB Gut run....if i started with a toss, i couldnt audible to to a counter because the gut run IS the other run.......

Youre probably talking about the play where i came out in a pass out of I form twins.....you pinched your line in, so i audibled to a run outside and scored a td.....i saw a hole to the left, and it worked....you were blitzing and bumping most of the game .......and the other game you lost you got ran on for 269 yards...why wouldnt i try to do the same....

[Dro89]

Freestyln if you have a problem with it so much.. you can go back into the game and search throught the plays and post them in here.. to prove he ran the same play..

[THUNDERDOME]

Freestyln if you have a problem with it so much.. you can go back into the game and search throught the plays and post them in here.. to prove he ran the same play..

How can u do that?....id be glad to do it myself

[freestyln]

Hey dro. Pfffft. Move on undefeated...hahaha

Chiefs, no I don't agree and no, we can't prove the case without videos. The first game, I know how to beat you, but I didn't run those inside runs for big plays like you mention before, because I gave you a chance. You sir ran the same run over and over when it worked to kill the clock (toss right, counter left...same formation) every play in the 2nd and 3rd and didn't give me a chance. No worries though, I know what to do with you next time........ no mercy.........welcome to the playoffs.

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 01:22 PM ----------

Dude when you audible, theres quick pass, deep pass, PA pass, and run
the run audible when im in that strong close formation is a HB Gut run....if i started with a toss, i couldnt audible to to a counter because the gut run IS the other run.......

Youre probably talking about the play where i came out in a pass out of I form twins.....you pinched your line in, so i audibled to a run outside and scored a td.....i saw a hole to the left, and it worked....you were blitzing and bumping most of the game .......and the other game you lost you got ran on for 269 yards...why wouldnt i try to do the same....

Wrong, I don't PA.

Those audibles are standard madden options with each formation, try again

I never bump and run speedy cbs against slow wrs

[DeadExField]

the jig is up

[freestyln]

HahaHa you're right dead, the gig is up. Chief, you won. Moving on

[Lavarleap56]

Not exactly Happy by what im reading in here and im looking into everything. This is taking time away from what i was working on ( league site, new forums) so this kind of stuff effects everyone but id rather hear and deal with it than nobody say anything to me.

1. First and foremost i need people to understand that while you may not be posting in the stadium, Tailgate or any of the main forums your still posting on extremeskins so lets chill on all the profanity eventhough its filterd it still looks bad. I had this forum created when we first started going with the league and i dont want issues to arrise from it and create more work for people.

2. Freestylin- i like you dude and when your chill you add a good element to the league BUT when you get questioned you blow up on people and the vibe gets bad quick. Right now you have 2 losses ( pats,Chiefs) and im aware you quit in both of them and im sure you know that doesnt look good and its in spite of the rules.

3. Browns vs Raiders i heard some of the same compliants and had blow ups in the forums as well.

Im not going to label your gameplay in terms of play selection, defensive strat, offensive strat and say your glitching or cheating without proof, I will label your going for it on 4th down and quiting as described in the above posts as against the league rules and a issue that needs to be resolved and will be.

Thunders right about the audible run in the strong close formation being a HB dive week but even if it was a counter i have no issue with that. A sim league is suppose to cut down on the cheese and glitching that occurs in online ranked games and make it a more realistic expirience. As a player if you can figure out what the defense is in and get to a play that gives you a chance of success than i dont have a issue with it as long as your not audibling down from 5 wide to strong close to get banks as a rb ect. Coming out in Strong close and watching a defense come out in cover 2,cover 3, bunching the dline i would probably go to a counter game as well because its smart football not a glitch. Rules are there for balance and knowing you can play without worrying about qb sneaks going for 99 yard tds ect lol not to make players dumb. The NFL has QBS that audible at the line all the time to get their offense in a better play so hard for me to tell people they cant do it. As far as defense goes i dont care what you run in madden, if its not a glitch their is a way to defense it.[COLOR="Gold"]

---------- Post added December-3rd-2011 at 08:36 PM ----------

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