"Dear Leader" Kim Jong-il Dead (and other North Korea related news)

[RVAbrendan]

You find it unnerving that people celebrate the death of a monster. I find that out of touch with reality.

~Bang

I think he finds it unnerving that people celebrate death period.

[Unforgiven]

That's right. I find it a little unnerving that people wish death or celebrate the death of another human being, regardless of how bad of a person he or she may have been.

So if the only way the lives of millions of people can improve is by a cruel dictator dying....people are wrong for wanting that to happen?

[Bang]

I think he finds it unnerving that people celebrate death period.

Some deaths should be celebrated.
This is one of them

Recognizing evil does not make anyone less for being happy it's gone.

~Bang

[Unforgiven]

I think he finds it unnerving that people celebrate death period.

I'm celebrating what his death means, you can't separate his death from what it means to millions of people.

This is nothing like saying "YES! Person X just died!" and it being something of no consequence.

[Willy Wonka]

I think he finds it unnerving that people celebrate death period.

Someone gets it.

---------- Post added December-18th-2011 at 11:47 PM ----------

So if the only way the lives of millions of people can improve is by a cruel dictator dying....people are wrong for wanting that to happen?

You are going to have to prove and show that this mans death is going to improve the lives of the people in North Korea. As far as I can tell, he is going to be replaced, which means that their lives will not improve. As I mentioned earlier, hopefully the people in that country realize governments in all shapes and sizes are not your friends, don't care about individual people, and do more harm then good and will see this as an opportunity to oppose any new form of state control over their lives.

[Bibby]

Nobody wants to see a person die. But when that person makes himself a threat to a nation/world then, yes, people are going to be happy to see them gone.

[Unforgiven]

You are going to have to prove and show that this mans death is going to improve the lives of the people in North Korea. As far as I can tell, he is going to be replaced, which means that their lives will not improve. As I mentioned earlier, hopefully the people in that country realize governments in all shapes and sizes are not your friends, don't care about individual people, and do more harm then good and will see this as an opportunity to oppose any new form of state control over their lives.

What an utterly ridiculous standard to try and create.

Obviously there was no chance of improvement while he was alive and in power, the only way for anything to get better was his death. In theory I guess it could actually get worse, but that's very unlikely since things are so bad there.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this, you have some bizarre logic going on that common sense can't penetrate.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Kim Jong-un is only 27....holy ****.

Hopefully he is a sane person...he studied in Switzerland and has been quoted as saying:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/kim...ough-to,18374/

PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—In surprisingly candid remarks Thursday, Kim Jong-un, heir apparent to North Korea's highest government post, expressed doubt that he was sufficiently out of his mind to succeed his father, longtime dictator Kim Jong-il.

[Willy Wonka]

What an utterly ridiculous standard to try and create.

Obviously there was no chance of improvement while he was alive and in power, the only way for anything to get better was his death. In theory I guess it could actually get worse, but that's very unlikely since things are so bad there.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this, you have some bizarre logic going on that common sense can't penetrate.

I'll read this as you conceding to the fact that you can't explain how his death will make the lives of others better. Regardless of your unwillingness or ability to prove this, it still doesn't make any difference. You rejoice the death of a person you didn't even know and on top of this, believe that you hold some sort of higher knowledge about how this will effect thousands of peoples lives.

My suggestion to you is to move on from this news and simply hope that the people in that country do their best to not allow another dictator to swoop right in and pick up from where he left off.

[AsburySkinsFan]

I thought gods didn't die, that's got to hamper the ol' North Korean IL theology. I guess his son is now the divine one.

[HailGreen28]

Well, now we're screwed.

[visionary]

Some interesting bits of news from the article someone posted earlier:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...nhap-says.html

Kim, 70, died on Dec. 17 of exhaustion brought on by a sudden illness while on a domestic train trip, the official Korean Central News Agency said.

Kim probably had a stroke in August 2008 and may have also contracted pancreatic cancer, according to South Korean news reports.

“Kim Jong Un’s taking complete control of the helm will not take place for a while due to his youth and inexperienced leadership,” said Yang Moo Jin, a professor at the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul. “The North will likely be under the control of a governing body for about a year.”

South Korea’s won declined as much as 1.6 percent to a two-month low of 1,177.15 per dollar and government bonds dropped after the news. The Kospi index lost 4.2 percent to 1,762.34 as of 12:38 p.m. in Seoul.

[AsburySkinsFan]

I'm not celebrating the death of a human being, but I am certainly not mourning Kim Jong Il's death either.
What's more is I'm not going to pretend that his passing doesn't give the people of North Korea a chance at something better for their nation and for their lives.
But I'm also not going to pretend that the military government rule will mean much change if any is likely to occur.

[Bang]

Someone gets it..

I get it.. and reject it.
Some people give up all expectancy to compassion thru their actions.

Our world is better now that he's dead. What comes next is whatever comes next. But in knowing what Il did in his lifetime, it's good that his life spent oppressing and enslaving others is now over.

~Bang

[Chants]

Here are some videos about the dysfunctional cult-nation known as North Korea.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...45385913859804

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...46457101273554

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27739408864997