I don't think St. Louis will give us a bro-discount and leave picks on the table, but again, if it's not a three-way conference call, we could get all sorts of things in terms of intelligence.
For example, if CLE lets slip that they're willing to offer their two 1sts and nothing more, under normal circumstances St. Louis might just tell us the pts of their picks and tell us to match, but with a decent relationship they might tell us CLE's plans in terms of how much they're willing to offer. Through that, we can tailor our plans better. A more relaxed, friendly coach might give up more information than a pure business one would. It's not a large advantage, but in the mind games that are the NFL draft, any tiny bit of information can be the difference between getting our guy and not.
It also insulates us somewhat from the games that get played with picks. Let's say that St. Louis wants to trade out, but also get Blackmon. That would normally exclude us from the proceedings, and would pretty much make CLE the only partner around (unless MINN got involved). A good relationship might mean they're willing to work harder to make a trade work, perhaps through offering a three-way trade with MINN and us, or something similar.
Also, on an entirely different tangent, has anyone ever done a really out of left-field play in terms of picks, offering say, a 1st, and then the team's 4th for the next 8 years, or something silly like that? Not that it's a good idea, and 4th rounders are usually only worth ~80ish pts, but a bunch of them add up and wouldn't be a huge tax on the draft. If you're certain that the guy is going to hit huge, why not throw a bunch of mid-round picks after a guy. I doubt it'd work in this case, but it'd be interesting to try some day.
If the Rams trade out of their 2nd overall pick it will be to the highest bidder, whether or not Shanny and Fisher are friends will have no impact on the deal. I can't believe what I'm reading. Come back down to Earth RG3 clan.
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i dont mean this in any sort of disrespectful way to any other posters, but some of your views are so skewed on the way some of this works.... and i know its because some of you want rg3 here so bad, that it has alot of people pulling at straws and clinging to anything that supports the argument of why cleveland will not want him or wont get him.
Last edited by SkinZ187; February-20th-2012 at 01:50 PM.
BTW...I don't think Shanny and Fisher are as close and probably doesn't affect the trade discussions much if at all. However, to say that a relationship doesnt affect business deals is probably the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
Not sure what line of work you are in, but in my business deals, its ALL about the relationship. I get deals that are more expensive than my competitors because of my relationship with them.
as to the line of work, not sure what business you are in, but my occupation has very much to do with this type of thing, sorta - lol (i deal with buying and selling oil and gas leases / mineral interests).
AKM311 - do u still want the bet? ... or was that just banter earlier - im okay with it either way.
Last edited by SkinZ187; February-20th-2012 at 02:01 PM.
as far as the bet, i would rather not do it through pm's. im not trying to pull anything on you. just a fun told ya so bet, lol. ive been a member here and an avid reader since 2002. im pretty familiar with alot of the members on here after reading here so much, and for so long. all we need is a long standing established member that is familiar with paypal to step up and act as the in between party. we each send him $100 to his paypal account, as a gift, and then after draft night, the member holding the $200 will send it to whoever wins the bets paypal address.
we wouldnt need to send it to him right away, as long as we agree on a cutoff time... for example - it need to be paid to an agreed upon inbetween party 72 hours before the start of the draft.
Last edited by SkinZ187; February-20th-2012 at 02:13 PM.
As for the Cassel situation, it was very similar.
The Pats franchised him in efforts to trade him. Pioli went to the Chiefs that year. NE was offered firsts by a couple of teams, but took the Chiefs high 2nd rounder instead.
It was similar in the sense he SHOULD have gone to the highest bidder. But the relationship was strong enough for the trade to be made on lesser competition.
The Rams can do whatever they want and accept any deal they want. Again, I stated before that I don't think Shanny and Fisher are that tight, but it has happened before in the NFL.
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fisher is going to take whatever deal most greatly benefits the rams (any relationships he has with either teams front office irrelevant) - regardless of who the deal is from. that is my opinion, simply put.
Last edited by SkinZ187; February-20th-2012 at 02:34 PM.
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