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[HogNose]

My mind would literally be blown for a solid hour if the colts took RG3. I would sit on my couch not really knowing what/how to feel

"Settling" for Luck would be a nice consolation prize. I don't care either way because we have suffered long enough and either one of these guys is fine with me. They are both high character guys and very bright.

Now I would be really worried if this was a Manning vs. Leaf situation with the Colts wavering on taking Leaf.

[SamoaSkinz]

Holmgren blaming Shanny/Fisher for Browns not getting RG3.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...d-move-for-rg3

Browns: Relationship blocked move for RG3
March, 15, 2012
By Jamison HensleyThe general perception is that the Browns failed to move up in the draft to get quarterback Robert Griffin III because they didn't offer enough to the St. Louis Rams for the second overall pick.

Browns general manager Mike Holmgren believes Cleveland had no shot at making the trade.

In a conference call with Browns season-ticket holders today, Holmgren said "a very close relationship" between the Rams and Redskins prevented Cleveland from moving two spots up in the draft. Holmgren didn't go into specifics about the relationship, but it's well-known that Rams coach Jeff Fisher and Redskins coach Mike Shanahan are close friends.

This is a very serious accusation from Holmgren, and he wouldn't speak publicly about this if he didn't feel strongly about its validity. If you doubt the closeness of Shanahan and Fisher, there's an article in USA Today from five years ago about the NFL's version of busom buddies. Fisher and Shanahan bonded in the 1990s in San Francisco, where Fisher was the 49ers' defensive backs coach for two years (1992-93) while Shanahan served as the offensive coordinator for three (1992-94).

Let's be clear about this: If this is true, Shanahan and Fisher didn't violate any NFL rule that I know about. But they are guilty of poor gamesmanship. I could understand a team trying to avoid helping out a division rival. But if the Browns gave the best offer, they deserved the pick.

The Redskins moved into the No. 2 spot by sending the Rams this year's picks in the first round (sixth overall) and second round as well as first-rounders in 2013 and 2014. There were reports that the Browns offered three first-round picks but not this year's second-round one. Holmgren said the reports about the Browns' offer were incorrect, saying Cleveland made "every bit the offer" as the Redskins.

While no one knows whether those future first-round picks would be better from the Redskins or Browns, a similar offer would favor the Browns because they were offering the fourth overall pick while the Redskins could only give the No. 6 pick.

“Honestly, when it didn’t happen -- I think there are reasons that I can’t go into right now -- but there is a very close relationship between the people getting the deal done and the people who offered," Holmgren said in the conference call. "And I’m not sure anything we offered would have been good enough. We were very, very aggressive and it didn’t work."

In other words, Holmgren says don't blame the Browns for failing to get RG3. You can point the finger -- or Dawg bone, if you prefer -- squarely at Shanahan and Fisher.


Nice Cop out by Holmgren to get the press off his back. He should state what the Browns offered in terms of picks so readers could judge for themselves which Offer (skins vs Browns) was the better one.

[Chris21]

Holmgren =

[pjfootballer]

Let me get this straight-- Browns and Holmgren offer (3) Three number ones and no 2nd. We don't even know if the 22nd pick was offered, but it's been rumored that it wasn't.

The Redskins offer (3) Three number ones AND a 2nd. So how in the hell was their offer equal or better? Am I doing the math wrong or is Holmgren a whiny b**ch?

I just lost respect for Holmgren. Resorting to crying and accusations. Be a man and admit you were outbid.

[Duckus]

I bet the Brown were one of the teams that push the cap hit against the Skins.

They can go **** themselves.

[ConnSKINS26]

Will RG3 wear his left-arm-only sleeve in the NFL? I hope so....its awesome. And I'm not being sarcastic, surprisingly!

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Seriously. Holmgren, you pansy. "I can't go into details...but let me give you the broad, generalized details, just enough to hopefully get you off my ass".

[SkinsNoles21]

The Browns having two first round picks actually HURT them. They made every bit the offer as the Skins, but not a better one because they didn't include the second first round pick. The Rams wanted it, didn't get it ... and went with the Skins.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

[/COLOR]Seriously. Holmgren, you pansy. "I can't go into details...but let me give you the broad, generalized details, just enough to hopefully get you off my ass".

LOL. Exactly. Note it was a conference call with SEASON TICKET HOLDERS. He has to explain how he blew the negotiation for the trade. Basically, I think if Cleveland offers both that 22nd pick (the only one they'd be "spending" again) and the two future 1sts, they'd have gotten the deal. Now you can say the relationship prevented STL from listening to that last attempt at an offer but if someone tells two people that the highest bid will WIN this AUCTION, you can't go BACK on that and now blow your credibility in future negotiations. Even if someone comes up "only" an hour or two hours later.

Honestly though, I think it's fate that we're getting a franchise QB (either one, though it's almost certainly RG3) and an end to our struggles is almost upon us. We'll probably have a down year during the run, almost every team does, but I bet we win a title and go to another title game before it's all said and done.

[Coolio47]

[ArmchairRedskin]

I kinda feel bad for the Browns fans. I know if we were in their shoes with two firsts and higher picks in every round I would be livid if I learned we were outbid. Then I'd probably be depressed about it. That's gotta be heart breaking.

I hope they draft a stud RB and WR this year. I hope Colt has a breakout year. I hope they turn a corner this year.

[TheRealBigRich]

I'm happy shanny and fisher has a good relationship to get this deal done . I really believe the deal the browns offered was just as good just not enough

[HogNose]

I just lost respect for Holmgren. Resorting to crying and accusations. Be a man and admit you were outbid.

Somehow he will get Goodell to look into it....what an ass clown.

[mistertim]

Holmgren blaming Shanny/Fisher for Browns not getting RG3.

<whining by Holmgren>

[redskins4ever28]

Am I the only one worried that RG3 might not want to come here? Listen to that interview he did. The website is http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/3/15/2...interview-with

I mean its nothing like alarming, but at the end of the interview they were like "Your going to whatever team drafts you right?" And he says "I THINK thats the case" "Im not going to pull the 'I dont want to play here' card. its not in my nature, not who I am"

Doesnt sound that excited does he? Makes me worry somewhat, I dont know, maybe Im just being a pessimist and worried something could happen, but nonetheless I guess thats just the problem with being a Skins fan, you always think something bads gonna happen

[Truant]

Am I the only one worried that RG3 might not want to come here? Listen to that interview he did. The website is http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/3/15/2...interview-with

I mean its nothing like alarming, but at the end of the interview they were like "Your going to whatever team drafts you right?" And he says "I THINK thats the case" "Im not going to pull the 'I dont want to play here' card. its not in my nature, not who I am"

Doesnt sound that excited does he? Makes me worry somewhat, I dont know, maybe Im just being a pessimist and worried something could happen, but nonetheless I guess thats just the problem with being a Skins fan, you always think something bads gonna happen

Relax. The guy CHOSE to go to Baylor and resuscitated that program. We have the second pick, either Luck or Griffin will be here. You could do a whole hell of a lot worse by being the franchise QB for one of the biggest and most profitable sports teams in the world.