ESPN: Robert Griffin III is a Washington Redskin (Merged-- The Everything RG3 Thread- Mocks,News, Rumors etc MET)

[Prototype]

Is it strange that I'm more concerned with getting RG3 than the Super Bowl this weekend? April is soooo faaaaar.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

Getting RGIII in April may determine whether we're the ones in a future Super Bowl, so no, not strange.

[MariusVT]

We really don't know what the Shannahan's are thinking right now, we have heard Kyle state that our receivers do not create any separation, which leads me to believe that they don't necessarily think the problem is at QB, I would think that they are not really sold on Rex but don't view him in the same light the rest of us do, reason? They see the rest of the problems in which no QB would have success trying to complete passes to covered receivers inc. anyone we may draft. We also saw last year when Gabbert fell right in our laps we traded out with just as big of a need at QB with everyone fawning over Gabbert, as it looks so far they were spot on with their evaluation of Gabbert, and definitely started to accumulate much needed overall talent by passing on him. It does seem Shanny is able to look beyond the hype and the fan pressure and make the right decision which may not include RG3, despite what RG3 did in college the evaluation of whether or not his game will translate to the NFL level has to be closely looked at, which we should all know that the NFL is night and day from college. I do not think any of the outsiders know what Shanny is thinking, they are all just speculating on our prior history of falling in love with the hype, and need for a big name rather than quality. So long as Danny stays out of the talent evaluation business we will be fine.

I think Shanny wanted Locker last year and didn't think anyone would take him before they got the chance. The Titans threw off draft plan A IMO and left us with Rexy and Beck as the QB's. It will be interesting to see what happens this year, I am looking forward to the draft. I'd be happy if we got RGIII but I really don't expect us to be able to pull it off.

[REEGSKINS]

I think Shanny wanted Locker last year and didn't think anyone would take him before they got the chance. The Titans threw off draft plan A IMO and left us with Rexy and Beck as the QB's. It will be interesting to see what happens this year, I am looking forward to the draft. I'd be happy if we got RGIII but I really don't expect us to be able to pull it off.

if that is the case and i think it was then shanny and co. wont sit back and wait for their guy to fall to them again. they will go get him.

[NLC1054]

We absolutely would've take Locker if he was there. Well, I think so. LavarLeap has indicated Locker was never really in the plan, but still. I can't imagine that we would've passed him up or traded down with Locker on the board.

That's not to say I don't love that we got Ryan or anything, but if Locker were there, I think he would've been a Redskin.

I never really believed the "Shanahan wants Gabbert" hype that surfaced a couple weeks leading up to the draft. Gabbert was MASSIVELY overhyped the second Luck went back to school, and even then wasn't as good a prospect as Locker in a lot of ways. He was typical, safe. Like vanilla ice cream. Good size, good arm, good over all-mechanics. Good at everything, great at nothing.

The fact that Gabbert was the second quarterback on a lot of people's boards and there were people that tagged a guy like Locker with a second or even third round grade shows you just how much these so-called "experts" really know, which basically amounts to "**** all".

RGIII isn't a hype job, and neither is Luck for that matter. They produced in school, made plays, have the physical AND mental skillsets, played tough. This isn't anything like people being "surprised" we didn't take Gabbert last season.

I reckon most fans that wanted Gabbert never actually saw him play, like most people who are afraid of RGIII have never seen him play.

[HogNose]

Is it strange that I'm more concerned with getting RG3 than the Super Bowl this weekend? April is soooo faaaaar.

Same here. I just want that Thursday night in April to get here. I wish I could hibernate like a Bear until then.

[Cen Tex Skins]

if that is the case and i think it was then shanny and co. wont sit back and wait for their guy to fall to them again. they will go get him.

I agree.After losing out on Locker last year, I doubt Shanny & co. take any chances this year.They do what it takes to get RG3.

[mistertim]

Ok, I have a question. How much of an impact do you all think Newton's success so far in the NFL has had on the way people view Griffin and his upside/potential as it relates to his draft stock? What would have happened if Newton had completely bombed this year, where it was obvious his game didn't translate into the NFL and he would likely need a decent amount of time to adjust?

I want to note that I'm not saying Newton and Griffin are all that alike. They have different strengths and weaknesses but, because of the spread offenses they came from and the fact that both are very good runners and amazing athletes, there is/was a ton of "upside" and "potential" used to describe them both coming out of college and into the NFL.

Do you think the positive talk about Griffin's potential and upside and how it makes him a top 5 prospect is/was in any way affected by Cam's rookie year?

[Darth Tater]

Ok, I have a question. How much of an impact do you all think Newton's success so far in the NFL has had on the way people view Griffin and his upside/potential as it relates to his draft stock? What would have happened if Newton had completely bombed this year, where it was obvious his game didn't translate into the NFL and he would likely need a decent amount of time to adjust?

I want to note that I'm not saying Newton and Griffin are all that alike. They have different strengths and weaknesses but, because of the spread offenses they came from and the fact that both are very good runners and amazing athletes, there is/was a ton of "upside" and "potential" used to describe them both coming out of college and into the NFL.

Do you think the positive talk about Griffin's potential and upside and how it makes him a top 5 prospect is/was in any way affected by Cam's rookie year?

I don't know why Newton is the comparison. Discussions about RG3 should talk about Dalton and Kolb.

[Califan007]

I don't know why Newton is the comparison. Discussions about RG3 should talk about Dalton and Kolb.

Not in terms of what mistertim was talking about, though. I don't think Kolb or Dalton are as athletic as RG3...I could see Griffin having quite a few rushing TDs due to his athleticism like Newton--ok, not nearly as many as Newton lol...but a lot more than either Dalton or Kolb.

[Destructis]

I don't think Newton has anything to do with RG3. Scouts look at players as individuals. They look at a lot of different things as measurables. If any scout ever said Newton was a success, so RG3 should be too, he should be fired on the spot.

[Califan007]

I don't think Newton has anything to do with RG3. Scouts look at players as individuals. They look at a lot of different things as measurables. If any scout ever said Newton was a success, so RG3 should be too, he should be fired on the spot.

"...Well, Newton was successful with all those TDs and stuff, so..."

[STBonecrusher21]

I don't think Newton has anything to do with RG3. Scouts look at players as individuals. They look at a lot of different things as measurables. If any scout ever said Newton was a success, so RG3 should be too, he should be fired on the spot.

I don't think to that extent. But I'm sure they definitely notice if a certain skill set is starting to work around the league, that they would be more open to the idea of trying it for themselves.

That said, I like RG3 as a passer wayyyy more than I did Cam coming out of college.

[Darth Tater]

Not in terms of what mistertim was talking about, though. I don't think Kolb or Dalton are as athletic as RG3...I could see Griffin having quite a few rushing TDs due to his athleticism like Newton--ok, not nearly as many as Newton lol...but a lot more than either Dalton or Kolb.

In college, Kolb ran pretty much the exact system that RG3 ran. Dalton also ran a very similar system at TCU. While Kolb is not as athletic as RG3, he was still a top athlete and at least as good a runner. RG3 is pretty much an athletic Dalton, so if you are going to ask any questions, it is does the success of Dalton make RG3 more attractive?

[terpskins10]

Dalton also ran a very similar system at TCU. While Kolb is not as athletic as RG3, he was still a top athlete and at least as good a runner.

Please explain.