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    Default Re: NYTs: Video Said to Show Marines Urinating on Taliban Corpses

    Yay lets ignore the actually act and argue if some newspaper is going make a big deal out of it.

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    I have nothing to add other than to ask if this is a record for quickest thread derail? ....since it occurred in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixcuincle View Post
    I love our troops but you can't do that

    Sorry, just can't
    Snipers are a strange breed.....**** happens

    my first thought after seeing the unit was please don't let my baby be in this vid or over them.
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    I couldnt care less about the act of 4 Marines pissing on the corpses of guys who are trying to kill them.

    This thread from the start is bout the reaction to the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    I find it funny that you demand that Predicto conduct research and establish proof before making assertions, but then you have no trouble announcing that you know, and have ranked, the motivations of a corporation.
    And as I recall, the NYT was one of the biggest cheerleaders FOR the Iraq invasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilmer17 View Post
    I couldnt care less about the act of 4 Marines pissing on the corpses of guys who are trying to kill them.
    Even if it endangers their fellow soldiers?

    I realize that the Taliban soldiers out there are trying to kill them either way, but things like this disgrace the uniform and serve as recruiting tools for terrorist organization. They hold this kind of thing up and say "Look what kind of people they are!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predicto View Post
    And as I recall, the NYT was one of the biggest cheerleaders FOR the Iraq invasion.
    That rapidly changed into a grudge though from what I observed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unforgiven View Post
    Even if it endangers their fellow soldiers?

    I realize that the Taliban soldiers out there are trying to kill them either way, but things like this disgrace the uniform and serve as recruiting tools for terrorist organization. They hold this kind of thing up and say "Look what kind of people they are!"
    They hold up pictures of playboy magazines as recruiting tools.

    These kind of acts dont affect a thing. Now, the overexposure and overreaction to the acts may do some harm.
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    Yep, the media's efforts have endangered as many or more for profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilmer17 View Post
    They hold up pictures of playboy magazines as recruiting tools.

    These kind of acts dont affect a thing. Now, the overexposure and overreaction to the acts may do some harm.
    I disagree on the point of equating something like Playboy as equal effective as pictures of American soldiers pissing on the corpses of their countrymen...if you think that is equal you're simply wrong.

    The American media's coverage of the story may overexpose it but the people using these images aren't using the American coverage, once the image is out there then it's out there....more or less coverage here doesn't change how it's viewed over there.

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    I dont think farmer Bill in Afghanistan is living his life and sees a picture of US marines pissing on a Taliban corpse and thinks "Screw this! Im joining the Taliban!"
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    Now they're going to go from really really hating us to really really really hating us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilmer17 View Post
    I dont think farmer Bill in Afghanistan is living his life and sees a picture of US marines pissing on a Taliban corpse and thinks "Screw this! Im joining the Taliban!"
    No, but you still have a lot of young people whose families were displaced by the American invasion and live in a poor struggling country and have no prospects. They see an occupying force that seems to have no intention of leaving but keeps trying explain how they're looking to improve the situation and then you have terrorists behind them saying the opposite....and out comes a picture of the American soldiers pissing on the corpses their fellow countrymen and fellow Muslims. Yet in your mind that has no more impact than a Playboy? Really?

    Your view of the American military is much different than theirs, things like this mean so so much more to them than to you.

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    Im saying those that who could have reached the hate needed to join have already done so and or will do so in the future for any reason.

    This one event, or any one event has no bearing on those decisions by individuals like that.
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    Default Re: NYTs: Video Said to Show Marines Urinating on Taliban Corpses

    A big part of the discussion related to the Abu Ghraib incident(s) was whether or not the administration had created an environment where that sort of behavior was ordered, encouraged, or tolerated. NY TImes article: Abu Ghraib Swept Under the Carpet http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/opinion/30thu1.html.

    The question is...will there be that sort of reaction to this incident?

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