I tend to react like Robert DeNiro in the Untouchables.
Acts like this tend to cause our country to do things like classify every person in the country where it happened as "them", and to decide that we're going to make war with all of "them".
But hey, if it doesn't bother you, then I guess that explains why you think it would have zero effect on them.
Although I suspect that most of them aren't as dispassionate and forgiving as you are.
We're all here because
we're not all there
Kilmer's news headline:
"Marines Piss on Corpses: Blame Lies with NY Times"
The U.S., our culture, and our troops do hold the moral high ground in battling Al Queda and the Taliban. When the whole world is watching the conflict, that's important. Stuff like this weakens that conviction.
The people who should be the most angry about this are the tens of thousands of U.S. troops who do their jobs the right way, because - fair or not - the actions of these 4 or 5 morons tarnishes their reputation in the eyes of the world.
Flying Vince Lombardi x x x x x x x x x x x Ryan Kerrigan... Funky-style
one celebrates and rewards
the other disavows and prosecutes
To answer the OP's comment about Abu Ghraib connection a significant part of that story was the Army's cover up for their officers running the prison, and just holding the enlisted accountable for their actions. They were either following orders (think of Code Red from "A Few Good Men") or officer's in charge who were negligent in doing their job at the best, but since we were waterboarding enemy's at the same time perhaps some might think the orders came from high above such as SECDEF, yet only the low ranking folks were prosecuted. That was at least in part of why that was such a story.
The photo of the female solider with a dog leash on one of the naked men also was quite the photo op as well. Sex sells - just look at the magazines, newspapers on the checkout isles of most supermarkets.
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I find it amusing that people enjoying the freedoms of our country take the time to even f with things of this nature. Who are you to care, you are contributing nothing to the war that these BOYS are going through. Boys tend to make mistakes, we can argue whether the mistake was the act or filming it till we're blue in the face. What shouldn't happen is constant negative talk about the marines as a whole or our armed services in general unless you actually serve or have served.
I have not served, I have no opinion on this subject because I know nothing of what it is like.
After reading stories like this:
Afghan girls maimed by acid vow to go to school
By Atia Abawi CNN
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-22/w...nt?_s=PM:WORLDShamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.Shivering in pain and calling for her mother, Shamsia's hands shake uncontrollably, her eyes swollen shut and her skin peeling from terrible acid burns.
The 19-year-old was heading to school along with her 16-year-old sister, Atifa, in Kandahar, Afghanistan. It was a warm November morning last year and their only anxiety was being late for class.
"We saw two men up ahead staring at us. One was standing off and the other one was on their motorcycle. I wanted to go but there was a black object in his hand and he took it out," Atifa says.
The girls thought it was a water pistol.
"He grabbed my arm and asked, 'Will you be going to school anymore?' He then threw acid on my sister and threw acid on me," Shamsia says.
They weren't the only ones attacked that day. Several other teachers and students were targeted on their way to Meir Weis Mena School in Kandahar, the nation's third-largest city and one where the Taliban have long been influential.
Atifa was burned so badly that her red scarf melted onto her dark brown hair.
over the years, there's a part of me that wonders why the group of Marines stopped at a # 1.
Recording it, was not the smartest thing to do,
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------------------------------------Robert Griffin III ✔ @RGIII
In a land of freedom we are held hostage by the tyranny of political correctness 4:41 PM - 30 Apr 2013
Having said that, I hear that war can get pretty ugly. People are people. I would think that out of all the stuff that goes on in a war, this kind of stuff is not even close to being on the top of the list.
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"I see it, ensign! Engage amygdala! Transfer all power from frontal lobes!
Suspend critical thinking field! Go to course heading of reflexive response 101 at full bias!
Now!'Enter' at will!"
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
I really don't care what our troops do to the bodies of those cowards. I know it's not PC but that is the way I feel.
I don't think it will have much effect on Taliban (aren't we making friends with them now anyway?) or Al Qaeda recruitment.
I do think that this sort of idiocy hurts our image and diplomacy around the world and makes it more difficult for the other soldiers who are trying to get locals to work with them.
As to the videotaping, it's interesting that people seem so fond of capturing their own misdeeds on video.
I recall a good bit of video footage being recovered in Libya for example that was actually made by Gaddafi's soldiers of themselves torturing and shooting people.
They taped themselves torturing and shooting KDaffy as well didn't they?
I blame cell phones
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How should society view a cure for a ailment of limited duration that takes another's life to 'cure'?
It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion. ...Dean Inge
Interesting take from someone who has never served and doesn't have an opinion.
It was stupid regardless of what American did it. Who are we to care ? We pay those men and women. We are Americans that have pride and absolutely enjoy our freedoms...but that type of crap is classless and disrespectful. We are always as a Country trying to be the bigger and better man. Those "BOYS" that you are talking about reflect on all of us whether you like it or not, that is reality.And 18 year olds aren't just boys, you can't just say boys will be boys. That would be pretty pathetic.
I think you could have presented your point better. Perhaps it is because you are from South Carolina...see what I did there ?
You can not blame every Muslim for the Taliban, You can't blame every German for WWII, You can't blame every Black guy for a club shooting, etc, I can go on for days with stereotypes.
Thanks for the sig LCSF
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