President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[Buford]

We've had threads dedicated to Newt, Mitt, Santorum, Perry, Bachmann and Paul.....but nothing on Obama.......who reelection campaign while not in full swing is also overshadowed by the primaries right now.

So, there have been a few items I wanted to post and there wasn't really a single thread I found. So......now is as good a time as any.

Obama gives blessing to a super PAC


Fearing a tide of spending by outside conservative groups, President Obama is giving his blessing to a pro-Democratic Party “super PAC” that will work to help his reelection, his campaign said late Monday.
Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said in a message to supporters that “our campaign has to face the reality of the law as it stands,” which he said gives a large financial advantage to Republicans and their allied groups. Messina said Obama will throw his support to Priorities USA Action, a super PAC founded by two former White House aides that until now has been unable to match its conservative competitors in fundraising.

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Obama campaign to return donation from brothers of Mexican fugitive


President Obama’s reelection campaign said Monday it will return more than $200,000 in contributions raised by two men, the brothers of a Mexican casino magnate who fled drug and fraud charges in the United States nearly two decades ago.
The move followed a report posted late Monday by the New York Times detailing fundraising efforts by the brothers of Juan Jose “Pepe” Rojas Cardona, who jumped bail in Iowa in 1994 and has since been linked to violence and corruption in Mexico.
Two of the fugitive’s brothers, Carlos and Alberto, both of the Chicago area, had emerged as top fundraisers for the Obama campaign, helping to raise more than $200,000, the Times report said.
“On the basis of the questions that have been raised, we will return the contributions from these individuals and from any other donors they brought to the campaign,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said.
The newspaper did not identify any donations from Pepe Cardona. But it said that as recently as January 2011, Carlos Cardona had enlisted the help of a Democratic Party official in Iowa to request a pardon, which was not granted.

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[Dan T.]

My look-a-like urges are kicking in. I can't decide which is closer...

x x x x x x x x x x x Kid Creole (of Kid Creole and the Coconuts fame):
x x x x x x x x x x x

or Lou Bega (of "Mambo Number 5" fame)


Anyway, carry on with Obama news....

[Teller]

Sweet! We're going to get our own Attack Watch entry!

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My look alike urges are kicking in too:

[twa]

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h

would a ban on political donations from those recieving federal loans be a good idea?
who is watching the watchers

[AsburySkinsFan]

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h

would a ban on political donations from those recieving federal loans be a good idea?
who is watching the watchers

Oh that would be awesome, and this is in no way an attempt to excuse this payback or incentive payments, but this has been the way politics has worked since as long as any of us have been alive. The major problem is that unless we go to public funding of elections and eliminate any special interest funded advertizing...in other words fundamentally change the way elections are run, then this is going to be the way both parties continue to operate for a very long time.

I'd go so far as to block loans and legislation from being written sponsored and supported by elected officials who have campaign ties to those who stand to benefit from legislation being passed, after all judges have to recuse themselves when there is a conflict of interest, why shouldn't our elected be held to the same standard across the board?

[#BgMase76#]

I whole heartedly agree but..... Isn't that the whole political system? Our system calls the lobbyist but we know all they do is pay off legislators for favors. I don't see any other way of viewing it other than pay for play. Lobbyists make campaign donations and can give other gifts.

[LadySkinsFan]

Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h

would a ban on political donations from those recieving federal loans be a good idea?
who is watching the watchers

You know, we could get rid of this speculation about politicians and where their campaign cash comes from if we'd outlaw all campaign contributions except from registered voters and only for the candidates that directly affect them and with strict limits, like $1,000 and go back to the Fair Doctrine Act.

Also, Rdskns2000, you forgot to add the liberal and moderate single and married men. They have skin in the game too, as far as contraception goes.

[Spearfeather]

My look alike urges are kicking in too:

Yeah.....mine too.

[Burgold]

Obama does not like Jiminy Cricket... yeesh.

[Teller]

I tried , but I can't get aggravated about this super PAC stuff. I think you can be opposed to something, but acknowledge that it's a necessary evil until the laws are changed.

That being said, this president has been the exact opposite of what I expected...great militarily, but a disaster here at home. My main gripes:

1) Obamacare, and my pending fines.
2) No tax credit for fathers paying child support. (One of the main reasons I supported him.)
3) Lip service to getting off of ME oil, but consistent actions to the contrary.
4) Throwing money away on green energy failures. (I like green. We all do. But be responsible with funding it.)
5) Desire to raise taxes on small and medium sized business; the ones that are leading the recovery.
6) Ensuring class warfare, then criticizing others for doing so.
7) Including me in the "wealthiest Americans" because I received the Bush tax cut. (And in all likelihood, so did EVERYONE who will read this. Congratulations on your massive wealth!)
8) The bailouts. I don't care that GM was saved. Ford had a better business model, and deserved that market share.
9) The fact that candidate Obama and president Obama are two entirely different people. I realize that all politicians say what we want to hear to get elected. But the contrast with him is more stark than I've EVER seen.

[AsburySkinsFan]

That being said, this president has been the exact opposite of what I expected...great militarily, but a disaster here at home.

The reason you all are so surprised is because ya'll made him out to be the next Marx brother (not the funny one) and a limp wristed pansy defensively, and come to find out he wasn't either of those two things. While the Left is furious that he wasn't either of those two things.

[Teller]

The reason you all are so surprised is because ya'll made him out to be the next Marx brother (not the funny one) and a limp wristed pansy defensively, and come to find out he wasn't either of those two things. While the Left is furious that he wasn't either of those two things.

Touche.

I didn't think he was going to be the wet noodle that most on my side did. But I didn't expect him to be so aggressive, nor successful, militarily.

The thing is, I voted selfishly for the first time in my life in 2008. I was really suffering financially, and I voted for the person who I thought would be best for ME. To that end, I've been severely disappointed. But then it's contrary to everything I alledge to stand for to expect that anyway.

[AsburySkinsFan]

I didn't think he was going to be the wet noodle that most on my side did. But I didn't expect him to be so aggressive, nor successful, militarily.

I never doubted his military chops, after all it isn't like he's the one drawing up the plans, he does have a small staff of people in a five sided building who seem pretty adept at handling those things.

The thing is, I voted selfishly for the first time in my life in 2008. I was really suffering financially, and I voted for the person who I thought would be best for ME. To that end, I've been severely disappointed. But then it's contrary to everything I alledge to stand for to expect that anyway.

Same here in part, I really wanted a public option......REALLY badly....and it seemed that in the haggling process that was Obama's opening offer, and when that happened I knew it was not going to happen, and that really ticked me off. (to the point where I almost punched my truck's radio when it was reported) But I don't think that voting for what will benefit you personally is all together out of the question, after all if you want what is best for the country doesn't that include you?

[NoVaO]

I tried , but I can't get aggravated about this super PAC stuff. I think you can be opposed to something, but acknowledge that it's a necessary evil until the laws are changed.

That being said, this president has been the exact opposite of what I expected...great militarily, but a disaster here at home. My main gripes:

1) Obamacare, and my pending fines.

Do you not have health insurance?

2) No tax credit for fathers paying child support. (One of the main reasons I supported him.)

Was this something he promised?

4) Throwing money away on green energy failures. (I like green. We all do. But be responsible with funding it.)

I don't think we've been irresponsible with funding it. I think the failures have been blown way out of proportion. Just keep in mind Congress set aside $10 billion to cover the losses on companies who were given loans that eventually went under. To my knowledge, we aren't close to even passing that threshold.

5) Desire to raise taxes on small and medium sized business; the ones that are leading the recovery.

I believe he has the opposite desire to what you state. He's been a major advocate of tax cuts for small and medium sized businesses and it's Republicans who have blocked any legislation put forward to actually help those businesses.

6) Ensuring class warfare, then criticizing others for doing so.

Asking the very rich to pay more in taxes is not class warfare. But I guess this is something we can disagree on.

7) Including me in the "wealthiest Americans" because I received the Bush tax cut. (And in all likelihood, so did EVERYONE who will read this. Congratulations on your massive wealth!)

What does this mean? Unless you make more than $250K, he's fighting to keep your tax cuts. In fact, under Obama's tax plan, your taxes would be lower compared to what the Republicans are offering.

8) The bailouts. I don't care that GM was saved. Ford had a better business model, and deserved that market share.

Ford lobbied Congress to pass the bailout, because without it, the supply chain Ford relies would have dried up had GM and Chrysler gone under. The car companies fold, so do their suppliers.

9) The fact that candidate Obama and president Obama are two entirely different people. I realize that all politicians say what we want to hear to get elected. But the contrast with him is more stark than I've EVER seen.

I sympathize with this, but the realities of governing are very different campaigning. He was naive to think that Republicans would actually work with him. I go back to the campaign of Hillary Clinton warning voters it would not work this way. He had better be ready to be pummeled by Republicans and to fight back. He was very late in recognizing this. I'll also add that he had an economy that collapsed in September, just two months before the election, dropped right into his lap. Any of the structural changes he wanted to make in Washington had to wait. And he used his political capital on shoring up the economy and health care.

[Henry]

I don't agree with everything on your list HH, but that's a good post. Obama has been much weaker domestically than many of us hoped. He's proven incapable of managing his own party and it's led to some questionable legislation. I was hoping for more. We really needed a strong leader these past four years and Obama hasn't been that.

That said, I think he's going to get a second term. He is an excellent campaigner and I don't think any of the GOP candidates have the stuff to take him on (except maybe Gingrich, but he's got way too much baggage.)