President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[The Evil Genius]

Well..to be fair..this was at the end of the story...that you didn't link.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153161/Un...-February.aspx

The consensus forecast, however, is for no change in the government's unemployment rate. February jobless claims were running at roughly 350,000 during the month, implying a relatively stable unemployment rate. Additionally, Wednesday's ADP report suggesting that private-sector jobs increased by more than 200,000 in February is also somewhat supportive of a stable unemployment rate forecast.

Regardless of what the government reports, Gallup's unemployment and underemployment measures show a substantial deterioration since mid-January. In this context, the increase in unemployment as measured by Gallup may, at least partly, reflect growth in the workforce, as more Americans who had given up looking for work become slightly more optimistic and start looking for work again. So while there may be positive signs, the reality Gallup finds is that more Americans are looking for work now than were doing so just six weeks ago.

[Thiebear]

When they deleted them making it go down it was good news, and when they added them back in to make it go back up its good news?
I like how thats worked

[Teller]

When they deleted them making it go down it was good news, and when they added them back in to make it go back up its good news?
I like how thats worked

Oh, it's incredibly encouraging. That half a percent of people looking for work again must be the ones that have found that elusive "hope" thing. I'm glad someone has.

[Stadium-Armory]

The Dow is at about 13k. My 401k is way up. My home value is on the rise. I'm pretty hopeful.

[Teller]

The Dow is at about 13k. My 401k is way up. My home value is on the rise. I'm pretty hopeful.

Wait. The Dow is made up of corporations. Their success is a horrific tragedy. And please, dear God, don't tell me you own ebil "big oil" stocks...please.

[Stadium-Armory]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm down with corporations. I work for one. We do good work, and they pay me well. Probably have some big oil in the mutual funds - cool enough, whatever. I also believe in science, a secular government, and that the world is probably not a few thousand years old.

I think Obama's doing a great job and look forward to more of this upward trajectory.

[Teller]

I think Obama's doing a great job and look forward to more of this upward trajectory.

Well, I'm glad the people he allegedly hates are doing well. The one's he allegedly caters to sure as hell aren't.

[Stadium-Armory]

Economy is picking up. Wars are winding down. Don't over think it.

P.S. I'm just a middle class dude with a desk job, a wife and 4 kids. If he hates me, he sure has a funny way of showing it. Every time I turn around, he isn't in my business except to extend my payroll tax break. Keep on hate'in!

[Teller]

Economy is picking up. Wars are winding down. Don't over think it.

It's really that simple.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Well, I'm glad the people he allegedly hates are doing well. The one's he allegedly caters to sure as hell aren't.

In your world, is it possible to want corporations to succeed while hating corporate personhood and the consolidation of corporate power?

Or should we all just accept Soylent Green now?

[Teller]

In your world, is it possible to want corporations to succeed while hating corporate personhood and the consolidation of corporate power?

And profits. Don't forget profits.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Hey h_h, I'm confused about something and maybe you can help out. A lot of liberals are mad at Obama because they feel that he ran as a liberal but he's not governing as one (which is utter nonsense). I know you voted for him too and are also mad at him. Do you think he ran as a centrist or even a conservatives but is governing as a liberal? Not trying to argue, I just legitimately don't get it.


Btw Bliz, sorry for bumping the Breitbaet thread with the Obama college video after you had already posted it in here. I just missed your post. My bad.

[Bliz]

Btw Bliz, sorry for bumping the Breitbaet thread with the Obama college video after you had already posted it in here. I just missed your post. My bad.

No worries, man.

I debated about which one to post it in, but figured it might come up in both.

[Teller]

Hey h_h, I'm confused about something and maybe you can help out. A lot of liberals are mad at Obama because they feel that he ran as a liberal but he's not governing as one (which is utter nonsense). I know you voted for him too and are also mad at him. Do you think he ran as a centrist or even a conservatives but is governing as a liberal? Not trying to argue, I just legitimately don't get it.

It's a fair question.

I try not to pigeon hole candidates as much as possible. Of course I do it, and we all do it to some extent, but I'm not the type to say "that guy's a liberal, so I won't even consider him." Nor do I say "this guy's a democrat, so he necessarily believes 'X.'"

My problems with this president are issue specific. Candidate Obama promised to do everything in his power to get us off ME oil. President Obama has done everything but. Candidate Obama promised tax credits for fathers paying child support. President Obama seems to have forgotten that. Candidate Obama promised no tax increases for anyone making less than $250,000. President Obama is going to fine me because my employer doesn't provide affordable health insurance.

Overall, I cast that (proxy) ballot because I was really struggling four years ago. It was the first time in my life I cast a "selfish" ballot. In most elections, I vote for the guy who I think is best for the country. This time I voted for the guy I thought would be best for me personally. It hasn't worked out that way. While this president has been stellar in his prosecution of the wars and terrorism, he's been an unmitigated disaster at home, IMHO.

But more to your point, it wouldn't be fair for me to criticize the president for "being a liberal." Anyone who did their research knew to expect that. It's the empty/broken promises that aggravate me.

FWIW, I'm not sure if most democrats are frustrated because he's not liberal enough. Most of the democrats in my circle are disappointed in his ability to rally his own troops on Capitol Hill, and accomplish much of anything. But that's anecdotal, and I'm sure you can speak to the "liberal enough" issue better than I.

[Stadium-Armory]

Solid Jobs Growth: 3 Times Is a Trend
When something happens once, it's a phenomenon. When something happens twice, it's a coincidence. When something happens three times, it's a trend. That's an old journalistic rule of thumb. And by that rule, February's employment report confirmed that we have a trend of decent employment growth.

The headline number showed that the economy created a net 227,000 jobs in February. When the economy began to create jobs in significant numbers, analysts frequently pointed out that a job creation rate of 150,000 per month was barely enough to keep up with population growth, and wasn't enough to make a dent in unemployment. Now we're finally getting that growth. February marked the third straight month in which payroll jobs rose by more than 200,000. Gains could be seen in a range of industries: professional and business services, manufacturing, and health care. The construction and retail trade sectors shed positions.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/danie...141221947.html