President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[War Paint]

The last election was 2010.

Thought we were focusing on Presidential elections.

[Predicto]

Thought we were focusing on Presidential elections.

Fair enough. But due to the electoral college, the polling that matters is state by state, and when doing state by state polling in 2010, Rasmussen was pretty bad.

[brandymac27]

As I said to bluefood, my Democratic party needs to get it together. Poor candidates and a poor message.

Hey, I'm right there with you! I'm still gonna vote democrat, but it really is slim pickins' this time around.

[The Evil Genius]

I'll go ahead and say it..I think Obama gets to 290.

There - if I'm off..so be it.

[thebluefood]

I'm a pretty reliable Democrat, but I voted 3rd party for Governor as a protest vote against my party. They need to put forward better candidates that stay out of trouble and a much better message. Voted McCrory last time but hate his inability to explain his massive tax cut. Also voted Steve Troxler cause I'm friends with his son and he's done a great job. I am encouraging all my conservative friends NOT to vote for John Tedesco for State superintendent. He's a loser. Anyways, I always love the feeling of voting.

I'm guessing you voted for Barbara Howe. I plan on doing the same (though it's because I genuinely support her). It wouldn't surprise me if she had some affect on the race, if for nothing else than to keep the margin somewhat close.

McCrory's got this one in the bag, though. The Democrats in this state really need to step their game up or else it will be another 20 years before we have another Democratic governor.

[Predicto]

North Carolina is not going for Obama. Not a chance. Virginia and Florida will be closer, but will probably also go for Romney.

The key to the election is the upper Midwest, and maybe Nevada or Colorado might matter. Obama is going to get Pennsylvania and Michigan. The real fight is in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa.

[twa]

How accurate was Rass on the Presidential race last time ?....with his bias

We will find out before long anyway

[thebluefood]

North Carolina is not going for Obama. Not a chance. Virginia and Florida will be closer, but will probably also go for Romney.

The key to the election is the upper Midwest, and maybe Nevada or Colorado might matter. Obama is going to get Pennsylvania and Michigan. The real fight is in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa.

Agreed on all count there. I'm starting to wonder if I was wrong and that North Carolina's status as swing state in 2008 was a fluke (though the changing demographics may keep it from being a solid red state from here on out).

[Skinz4Life12]

North Carolina is not going for Obama. Not a chance. Virginia and Florida will be closer, but will probably also go for Romney.

The key to the election is the upper Midwest, and maybe Nevada or Colorado might matter. Obama is going to get Pennsylvania and Michigan. The real fight is in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa.

Agreed. I believe whoever wins OH will win the election.

Polls are looking good for Obama in Iowa right now too

[Predicto]

Agreed on all count there. I'm starting to wonder if I was wrong and that North Carolina's status as swing state in 2008 was a fluke (though the changing demographics may keep it from being a solid red state from here on out).

It was a fluke. North Carolina is only a few years removed from Jesse Helms. Nothing changes that fast.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

North Carolina is not going for Obama. Not a chance. Virginia and Florida will be closer, but will probably also go for Romney.

The key to the election is the upper Midwest, and maybe Nevada or Colorado might matter. Obama is going to get Pennsylvania and Michigan. The real fight is in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa.

Fwiw, Iowa looks like it's Obama's to lose at this point.

[Thiebear]

I think he ran for 76 yards in debate 2.

Apparently only to those that wanted him to be.
If real he would have scored 6 poll points.
So far it appears to be a safety
This hasn't been an Optimal week

[Hersh]

I'm guessing you voted for Barbara Howe. I plan on doing the same (though it's because I genuinely support her). It wouldn't surprise me if she had some affect on the race, if for nothing else than to keep the margin somewhat close.

McCrory's got this one in the bag, though. The Democrats in this state really need to step their game up or else it will be another 20 years before we have another Democratic governor.

I did vote for her even though I don't agree with 75% of what I've heard. I think we need more voices, candidates and choices. It won't be that long before we get another Democratic governor. Scandals happen, they cut drastically in the name of tax cuts, anything could swing it back.

NC could easily swing back to the Democrats next election depending on who the candidates are and how whomever is President performs.

---------- Post added October-19th-2012 at 07:45 PM ----------

North Carolina is not going for Obama. Not a chance. Virginia and Florida will be closer, but will probably also go for Romney.

The key to the election is the upper Midwest, and maybe Nevada or Colorado might matter. Obama is going to get Pennsylvania and Michigan. The real fight is in Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa.

I think Virginia still goes for Obama. Pennsylvania and Michigan were never swing states. How quickly will Obama have an ad up about defending and winning the case against China involving US steel in Ohio??

[Skinz4Life12]

It's interesting how Real Clear Politics has both of those states as tossups, but the average polling is Obama plus 5.

Meanwhile, the average polling in North Carolina is Romney plus 5, and RCP puts that state into the Romney tally.

Of course, RCP doesn't pretend to be a neutral news aggregator, but it's still kind of funny.

I made that exact same point on another forum saying that it was only a matter of time before Penn got the nod as "leans Obama". Weird that it still hasn't happened.

What do you mean RCP? What bias (D or R) does it have?

[Predicto]

I
Pennsylvania and Michigan were never swing states. How quickly will Obama have an ad up about defending and winning the case against China involving US steel in Ohio??

It's interesting how Real Clear Politics has both of those states as tossups, but the average polling is Obama plus 5.

Meanwhile, the average polling in North Carolina is Romney plus 5, and RCP puts that state into the Romney tally.

Of course, RCP doesn't pretend to be a neutral news aggregator, but it's still kind of funny.