President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[twa]

No, us'all like to not hold Obama responsible for things that happened before he got elected.

As opposed to those who desperately want to.



I noticed that, myself. Seems curious.

Dunno (since you didn't provide a link or a source) if your source is adjusting for inflation, or retroactively adding the war costs back into the numbers, or what.

I consider a bailout a onetime thing, not the new budget norm....I don't hold him anymore responsible for the crash than any other congresscritter
I do for his actions after....unlike some that desperately do not want to.

the source was wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...et_submissions

[Larry]

I consider a bailout a onetime thing, not the new budget norm....I don't hold him anymore responsible for the crash than any other congresscritter
I do for his actions after....unlike some that desperately do not want to.

Please. Tell us which of "his actions after" you hold Obama responsible.

[RedskinsFan44]

I don't hold him anymore responsible for the crash than any other congresscritter

Think the private sector might have had something to do with it?

[Larry]

Think the private sector might have had something to do with it?

I was admiring the facile way he decided that, well, if he can't blame the Democrat in the White House (since he wasn't there, yet), then it must be the Congress.

Couldn't possibly be the party that WAS in the White House, you know.

And it couldn't possibly be the trickle-down, Republican agenda, that we've been implementing, with slight variations, for 30 years. Nope. It absolutely much have been the Party that was in change of Congress, for a few months, when it hit.

(If you point this out, then his third attempt to shift the blame will be to point out that the board of Fannie Mae had a Democrat on it.)

[SteveFromYellowstone]

Please. Tell us which of "his actions after" you hold Obama responsible.

Of course they never have any specifics. Must be all these Obama regulations and Obama taxes that don't exist

[twa]

Please. Tell us which of "his actions after" you hold Obama responsible.

The direction of stimulus funds
Energy policy
Priorities of his Administration
His interference in the GM bankruptcy even beyond funding
The EPA's actions under him
The Justice Dept under him

want more?....pretty sure we played this game before

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Think the private sector might have had something to do with it?

Certainly....I was willing to let them suffer for it as well,instead we get even too bigger to fail and the idiots running the asylum
And no prosecutions for what was labeled criminal during campaigning

[RedskinsFan44]

If Obama wins I wonder how much of a difference having Clinton campaigning made vs the absence of Bush. It is amazing how good a surrogate Clinton has been for Obama. He seems to be a far more natural politician in his ability to connect with people. Bush certainly has these qualities too, and would be far better at connecting than Romney.

[skinsmarydu]

The direction of stimulus funds
Energy policy
Priorities of his Administration
His interference in the GM bankruptcy even beyond funding
The EPA's actions under him
The Justice Dept under him

want more?....pretty sure we played this game before

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Certainly....I was willing to let them suffer for it as well,instead we get even too bigger to fail and the idiots running the asylum
And no prosecutions for what was labeled criminal during campaigning

Direction of stimulus funds-mostly tax cuts, something conservatives should love
Priorities of his admin-affordable healthcare for the nation, something everyone should love

My boss is now reaping the benefit of his vote, as his son's HS football injury won't put the kid or his parents over some arbitrary lifetime limit when he's only 16.

[mjah]

If Obama wins I wonder how much of a difference having Clinton campaigning made vs the absence of Bush. It is amazing how good a surrogate Clinton has been for Obama. He seems to be a far more natural politician in his ability to connect with people. Bush certainly has these qualities too, and would be far better at connecting than Romney.

Bush just has those nagging problems of presiding over the economic collapse, cheering on the wildest increase in deficit spending in history, lying about WMDs in order to start an elective second simultaneous land war in Asia, leaving that particular war plus the justifiable one in Afghanistan for the next guy to deal with, FEMA's disastrous missteps in the wake of Katrina under his boy Heckuva Job Brownie, eager promotion of torture as an American value, inability to get Bin Laden, and his correspondingly disastrous approval ratings in office standing in the way.

Not to mention the things that would make him unpopular with the anti-spending right wing. Medicare Part D, the Bush bank bailout he signed, etc.

He has remained in hiding for a reason...

[Toe Jam]

I got to see Bill Clinton speak last night. He was fired up. Really let Mittens have it.

I think he's been a great asset for the Obama camp.

[Larry]

I got to see Bill Clinton speak last night. He was fired up. Really let Mittens have it.

I think he's been a great asset for the Obama camp.

I suspect so.

Which rather surprises me. I think of Obama as being really good when delivering a speech. Which, I think, is mostly what campaigning consists of. So it would seem to me like Obama should be better at campaigning.

But yeah, the impression I get is that Clinton has been a real asset.

Heck, after W, and Obama, he may become the Democrat's version of Reagan.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

https://twitter.com/AriMelber

Ari Melber ‏@AriMelber

Voters in battleground states registered by Obama Campaign in 2008: Roughly 900,000. And this cycle: 1,792,261

[Thiebear]

The President has been going around saying Romney is lying about Fiat sending Jeep to Italy/China:

To counter the severe slump in European sales, Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said. .

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-19-billion#p1
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...ving-to-china/

Chrysler does have plans to start Jeep production in China but for the Chinese market. "We are working to establish a global enterprise and previously announced our intent to return Jeep production to China, the world's largest auto market, in order to satisfy local market demand, which would not otherwise be accessible," Marchionne wrote in his blog post.

[DieselPwr44]

Don't bother Thiebear.

Everyone here in this thread knows that Obama is as pure as the driven snow and Romney is a lyin',murderous felon.

[chipwhich]

Don't bother Thiebear.

Everyone here in this thread knows that Obama is as pure as the driven snow and Romney is a lyin',murderous felon.

I am truly shocked at not so much the opinions on Romney, as much as the intellectual dishonesty when it comes to Obama. You would think he has been the greatest president ever based on some of the posters damnation. I haven't been around the tailgate for many elections, but some posters in here can't admit any wrongdoings, it's honestly shocking.

I can list flaws of both.