President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[Rdskns2000]

Zogby is right wing now?...you are trying too hard

Well, some think he is. I remember that in 2000 he was the only one who seemed to see that Gore had caught up to Bush that final weekend.

[Prosperity]

Why?....is there a limit?

Yes, something like that

[Thiebear]

So the Embassy issue takes us back to the normal Communication Blocks:
EmbassyGate: What did we know and when did we know it.


I think the StateDept was fielding calls and stating Egypt is still an ally: Just because Egypt had a democratic election doesn't mean we cancel alliances.
Just like when we went from Bush to Pres. Obama in the United States we don't cancel all alliances.
I thought we've heard for 30 years that Carter may have been a mediocre President, but has been a great Retired Ambassador?
And he agrees with the StateDept.

Chris Moody a self described Yahoo "mainstream Media" guy that the breaking stories overseas just means the US Press is stuck in campaign mode and hopes
we pick it up today and the rest of the week on investigative journalism.

Why was the embassy subpar on basic windows/doors/perimeter, security personnel

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

[Elessar78]

Reading the Washington Post this morning and just smacking myself on the head again. Clinton was right. This version of the Republican Party lives in an alternative universe—where facts don't matter anymore. I was in a "dead spot" yesterday afternoon and all I could get on the radio was a Hannity broadcast. And the caller had him in a corner and Hannity feigned outrage and just hung up on him. Spectacularly out of touch.

Additionally, Romney comes out saying (or at least the party) that this wouldn't have happened under his watch. That the strength of the American military would be a clear deterrent. While he's got one of his top adviser saying, "There are things that we can do in terms of what we say, the constancy of what our vision is — pluralism, respect for law, human dignity." Really?

This guy stands for EVERYTHING. Because the idiot electorate won't nit pick that your positions are contradictory.

[RedskinsFan44]

So the Embassy issue takes us back to the normal Communication Blocks:
EmbassyGate: What did we know and when did we know it.


I think the StateDept was fielding calls and stating Egypt is still an ally: Just because Egypt had a democratic election doesn't mean we cancel alliances.
Just like when we went from Bush to Pres. Obama in the United States we don't cancel all alliances.
I thought we've heard for 30 years that Carter may have been a mediocre President, but has been a great Retired Ambassador?
And he agrees with the StateDept.

Chris Moody a self described Yahoo "mainstream Media" guy that the breaking stories overseas just means the US Press is stuck in campaign mode and hopes
we pick it up today and the rest of the week on investigative journalism.

Why was the embassy subpar on basic windows/doors/perimeter, security personnel

I think Obama's statement was a shot across the bow to spur Egypt to step up its game on quelling the riots. If you look at their president's statements he has not exactly condemned the violence. Funny how Obama simultaneously gets blamed for allowing a member of the Muslim Brotherhood to become President of Egypt and for not emphatically backing Morsi.

Are you referring to Libya or Egypt, because the attack in Libya was not on the embassy.

[Thiebear]

Do we normally deny an alliance as a 'shot across the bow' on Telemundo? and then have his subordinates backtrack all day?
Did Great Britan drop our alliance when President Bush took over from President Clinton.. as a shot over the bow.

What Egypt went to / from is probably not that far off in Egypt than going from President Obama to Romney in the US based on his thread/topic comments?
(Mbrotherhood isn't going to starve children, kill off old people and keep women down more than Romney and his cult are they?)

Update:
‘The most interesting man in the world’ to host fundraiser for President Obama...
(thiebear: he doesn't vote often, but when he does it's for Dos-Obama)

[gbear]

From my understanding, the U.S. is very unpopular in Egypt. According to one expert on NPR this morning, Egypt may have the most ardent U.S. hatred in the Middle East amongst its populace. Now with that in mind, I ponder the corner the newly elected government of Egypt is placed. On one hand, there is a popular protest against a country seen as a backer of the past regime while the other hand is trying to be seen as legitimate in the international world. Legitimacy involves protecting embassies on your soil.

Now when it comes to Obama's quote, if you were the government of Egypt, what would you want him to say? Do you want to be seen as the U.S. ally? Historically, Egypt has been a huge ally of the U.S. in that region, to the point where I believe they got huge amounts of money and military equipment from us. Would partner be a better term, and would any such distinction matter? Is it possible the initial denial of "ally" status is a boon to the new government?

[RedskinsFan44]

Do we normally deny an alliance as a 'shot across the bow' on Telemundo? and then have his subordinates backtrack all day?
Did Great Britan drop our alliance when President Bush took over from President Clinton.. as a shot over the bow.

What Egypt went to / from is probably not that far off in Egypt than going from President Obama to Romney in the US based on his thread/topic comments?
(Mbrotherhood isn't going to starve children, kill off old people and keep women down more than Romney and his cult are they?)

Update:
‘The most interesting man in the world’ to host fundraiser for President Obama...
(thiebear: he doesn't vote often, but when he does it's for Dos-Obama)

I saw the "ally" quote on excerpts from the 60 minutes interview. Regardless, you send a statement by putting it out in the press. If he did the same on Telemundo it just shows that it is part of a strategy. Going from Bush to Clinton or Obama to Romney is in no way equivalent to going from a dictator to a democratically elected member of a group held down by that dictator.

Hyperbolic comments do not justify further hyperbolic comments.

[stevemcqueen1]

So President Carter is at least the second worst President in United States history according to Republicans, but he's a credible source of information on what Obama should have or should not have said.

Republicans are funny...

Plenty of Republicans like Jimmy Carter the ex president. My grandparents hated him as president but they like what he's done since.

[Elessar78]

The last two days I kinda wanted to see what conservative talk radio was really about. Wow. Hannity won't even allow a counter argument mentioned on his show and his panels pitted a dottering liberal with a heavy foreign accent against a red blooded american counterpart. Some other guy was on a 40 minute monologue populated not with merely half truths but flat out lies and, to be honest, veiled racism (not thinly either). These are just a couple of examples and everything is equally out there.

WTF, is wrong with that party. They are, as Clinton, put it in an "alternative universe."

[Rdskns2000]

Obama will be flexible after the election.

What I would like Obama to do is start talking details about his second. How is specifically going to implement his plans. How much will it cost and how is he going to pay for it. Who does he have in mind for some of his top cabinet positions as people leave at the end of the first term. How does he plan to get another done when he will most likely have the same congress he did the last 2 years.

[twa]

Heh
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...slam-Filmmaker

what if the terrorists learn that the president of the United States is benefitting from a million dollar contribution given by a filmmaker who mocked Islam? How will Hillary Clinton claim with any credibility that the United States government has no connection to this outrage? How will White House spokesman Jay Carney say this with any credibility:

“The reason why there is unrest is because of the film,” he said at one point. “This is in response to the film.” At another moment, he said, “The cause of the unrest was a video.” At yet another, “These protests were in reaction to a video that had spread to the region.”

And the lapdog media just can't stop humping a leg of lies.

It's weird, though, isn't it?

I mean, how Hollywood has been silent in its defense of the filmmaker Obama is currently scapegoating (and in some cases, Hollywood is grabbing a torch), even as they embrace Bill Maher.

Well, I guess some anti-Islamic filmmakers are more equal than others.

[Larry]

Heh

Is there a fact and a point in there?

One that you're actually willing to, you know, make?

[twa]

Is there a fact and a point in there?

One that you're actually willing to, you know, make?

I'm easily amused at hypocisy

http://www.volokh.com/2012/09/12/all...efs-take-note/

All of You Who Harshly Condemn Anti-Homosexuality Religious Beliefs, Take Note

And same for all of you who mock young earthers, or devout Scientologists, or believers in miracles — and all who say that, for instance, racist or sexist religious beliefs are contemptible — and maybe even all those who, even politely, contend that rival religions’ views are wrong and will deny salvation to the holders of those views:

The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.

So says the Secretary of State, in quite categorical terms. After all, in all the examples given above, you would presumably be intentionally denigrating the religious beliefs of others: saying that they are immoral and foolish. The U.S. government deplores your speech. It’s not just that the government doesn’t endorse the speech, not just that it deplores a limited and narrow category of blasphemous acts (e.g., burning a Koran, treading on a crucifix, and the like), but rather that it deplores any attempt to denigrate religious beliefs. Religious beliefs, which are routinely used by billions as a guide to private action and a guide to lawmaking, are supposed to be somehow immune from the denigration that is a commonplace and necessary part of debate about ideological beliefs generally.

[Larry]

I'm easily amused at hypocisy

I came to that conclusion quite some time ago.

Nonetheless, I repeat:

Is there a fact and a point in there?

One that you're actually willing to, you know, make?