President Barack Obama/Vice-President Joe Biden Re-elected to 2nd Term Thread

[twa]

I have no idea if Obama or Romney is going to win. I think its going to be a very close thing.
But I do know that your narrative that the whole thing is fixed is an effort to rationalize away what appears to be bad news with the idea that the entire media and all the polls are out to get you. It's a sad and pathetic echo chamber device.

Improper weighing/sampling is not fixed, it is simply going to give different results.

Sad and pathetic is thinking I mind libs having a false sense of security

and of course their wailing and moaning when reality intrudes at election time.

[RedskinsFan44]

Improper weighing/sampling is not fixed, it is simply going to give different results.

Sad and pathetic is thinking I mind libs having a false sense of security

and of course their wailing and moaning when reality intrudes at election time.

What is the line in Vegas? Are they driven by partisanship or money?

[twa]

What is the line in Vegas? Are they driven by partisanship or money?

I wouldn't know, only gambling I do is Blackjack....and that rarely

are you assuming the house is gonna lose money?

but since you seem interested
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/fo...he-white-house

[Predicto]

Improper weighing/sampling is not fixed, it is simply going to give different results.

Sad and pathetic is thinking I mind libs having a false sense of security

and of course their wailing and moaning when reality intrudes at election time.

Sad and pathetic is your claim of a giant conspiracy of media and pollster lies, rather than honest disputes about polling methodology.

Did I misread what you wrote?

[twa]

Sad and pathetic is your claim of a giant conspiracy of media and pollster lies, rather than honest disputes about polling methodology.

Did I misread what you wrote?

I wrote of a giant conspiracy?

I certainly see a problem with many polls,which certainly give a false impression....is willful ignorance a lie,or just inherent bias?

[Larry]

I wrote of a giant conspiracy?

I certainly see a problem with many polls,which certainly give a false impression....is willful ignorance a lie,or just inherent bias?

For the last two weeks we have been treated to the narrative that Barack Obama is surging at the polls, Mitt Romney is in trouble and unless there is a massive change in direction it is all over.

Simply put this is a lie.

[twa]

You should certainly embrace equating giving a false impression as lying.....it seems one of your memes

is willful ignorance a lie,or just inherent bias?

[Larry]

You should certainly embrace equating giving a false impression as lying.....it seems one of your memes

is willful ignorance a lie,or just inherent bias?

I embrace intentionally giving a false impression as lying. (Because it is.)

I conclude that it's intentional, (since I can't read minds), when it happens thousands of times, and always in the same direction.

Ignorance is not a lie.

Pretending ignorance is. So is spreading or encouraging ignorance.

[Rdskns2000]

The truth is you can't accept the truth.

The Republicans fielded the worst group of candidates in American history in 2012. If that was the best they had to offer, the party is destined for extinction.

Romney has been showing why he is unfit for the presidency; which is a shame because we already have one person unfit for office running and he current holds the office. Alas, there was no choice to replace him.

There are more Democrats or people who lean to Democrats than they are Republicans or people who lean that way.


Here's how I view the current support:


For Obama- 47%
Not Romney- 1%
Not Obama- 44%
For Romney- 2%
Others- 3%
Undecided- 3%

In order to win, you need people to actually want to for you as opposed to just voting against the other guy. The remaining vote left to convince are people who are Democrats or people who lean democrats. I would say Romney's performance last couple fo weeks and his videotape comments will pretty much seal the deal towards Obama. They know the evil of Obama and they will prefer that vs. some arrogant douche bag who reminds you of the boss you hate.

Election is over. Romney is acting like people will vote for him just because things are bad. No, the remaining undecided vote actually needs specific reasons to vote for you and you have done is give specific reasons not to vote for you. Advantange Obama.

[The Evil Genius]

The truth is you can't accept the truth.

Romney has been showing why he is unfit for the presidency; which is a shame because we already have one person unfit for office running and he current holds the office. Alas, there was no choice to replace him.
[/B]

Ah throw away lines.

ols

History is going to be favorable to Obama's 8 years, whether or not conservative white America gets to write it.

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Especially since they can't exactly figure out why he's unfit for office, other than because he's an evil black kenyan moooslim. edit..and did I mention HUSSEIN!

[twa]

There are more Democrats or people who lean to Democrats than they are Republicans or people who lean that way.



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You really think so?

Monthly Rasmussen Reports tracking of partisan trends found that in June 2012, 35.4% identified as Republicans, 34.0% as Democrats and 30.5% were unaffiliated. These numbers changed only slightly from the previous month
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...in_U.S._states

the conservative identification divide is much greater

and Romney is winning the independents according to Gallup

[Predicto]

You really think so?

Monthly Rasmussen Reports tracking of partisan trends found that in June 2012, 35.4% identified as Republicans, 34.0% as Democrats and 30.5% were unaffiliated. These numbers changed only slightly from the previous month
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...in_U.S._states

the conservative identification divide is much greater

and Romney is winning the independents according to Gallup

It's all how you define independents - and you have no idea how Rasmussen did it vis a vis how Gallup did it. You can't mix and match polls like that and hope for valid results.

[twa]

It's all how you define independents - and you have no idea how Rasmussen did it vis a vis how Gallup did it. You can't mix and match polls like that and hope for valid results.

Fine, Gallup puts it near even when including leaners


you want polls Romney is winning independents?

[Predicto]

Fine, Gallup puts it near even when including leaners

you want polls Romney is winning independents?

That chart is pretty useless, given that it ends in 2011.

But even if it were useful, what I actually want is the explanation of how that one CBS poll that your blog was complaining about defined its "independents." Because if they defined it to include tea partiers or hard conservatives who call themselves independent even though they are sure to vote for the GOP when the chips are down, then the poll probably didn't oversample democrats and your whole "pollster lying" narrative falls apart.

In other words, I find Nate Silver much more compelling than you, and he doesn't see the polls as secretly revealing that Romney is way ahead.

[twa]

That chart is pretty useless, given that it ends in 2011.

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In other words, I find Nate Silver much more compelling than you, and he doesn't see the polls as secretly revealing that Romney is way ahead.

The trend continues of people leaving the Dem party
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-swing-states/

If you are confidant in Nate, please continue(I find him interesting)....I don't think Romney is way ahead,but I do think he is at the minimum even(as the Gallop and Rass polls show)

time will tell