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    Default What's your take on each of the NFC East defensive coordinators?

    Jim Haslett
    Rob Ryan
    Perry Fewell
    Juan Castillo

    What's your impression and take on each of these men?

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    Jim Haslett is a B-
    Rob Ryan is a B-
    Perry Fewell is a C-
    Juan Castillo can suck it
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    Haslett - 2nd in the division. Didn't have a lot to work with to start out, but he's been making huge strides. Our defense looked respectable last year. He's been able to successfully turn Rak and Kerrigan into OLBs. He's gotten rid of players who can't or won't fit in with the scheme, and along with Shanny has been finding gems throughout the draft. He's quietly turning our D into a respectable one again.

    Ryan - 4th in the division. Just like his brother, lets his mouth write checks his defenses can't cash. He would do better to just shut up and work on improving his defense. Routinely does less with more than almost anyone else. Despite having some very good individual pieces to the puzzle, has yet to turn them into a solid defensive unit.

    Fewell - 1st in the division. Almost the exact opposite of Ryan. His defenses aren't star-studded (aside from his DEs), and he consistently produces a solid unit. Riding the momentum created by Spags, but added his own wrinkles. I still think the 3 DE set on passing downs is ingenious. It gets favorable matchups for at least one of them.

    Castillo - 3rd in the division. Still in over his head. I don't think he should have brought in the Wide 9, but his DL coach used it in Tennessee, so Castillo is going with what's familiar. I do give him credit for not scrapping it after a rough year though. He still doesn't have the personnel to run it. Needs to find some quality LBs in order to run it effectively. He's third because the defense stepped up over the last half of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Haslett - 2nd in the division. Didn't have a lot to work with to start out, but he's been making huge strides. Our defense looked respectable last year. He's been able to successfully turn Rak and Kerrigan into OLBs. He's gotten rid of players who can't or won't fit in with the scheme, and along with Shanny has been finding gems throughout the draft. He's quietly turning our D into a respectable one again.

    Ryan - 4th in the division. Just like his brother, lets his mouth write checks his defenses can't cash. He would do better to just shut up and work on improving his defense. Routinely does less with more than almost anyone else. Despite having some very good individual pieces to the puzzle, has yet to turn them into a solid defensive unit.

    Fewell - 1st in the division. Almost the exact opposite of Ryan. His defenses aren't star-studded (aside from his DEs), and he consistently produces a solid unit. Riding the momentum created by Spags, but added his own wrinkles. I still think the 3 DE set on passing downs is ingenious. It gets favorable matchups for at least one of them.

    Castillo - 3rd in the division. Still in over his head. I don't think he should have brought in the Wide 9, but his DL coach used it in Tennessee, so Castillo is going with what's familiar. I do give him credit for not scrapping it after a rough year though. He still doesn't have the personnel to run it. Needs to find some quality LBs in order to run it effectively. He's third because the defense stepped up over the last half of the season.
    Hard to disagree with what you said, I'd probably have them ranked the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper 21 View Post
    Jim Haslett is a B-
    Rob Ryan is a B-
    Perry Fewell is a C-
    Juan Castillo can suck it
    I agree, with a definite downgrade to Rob Ryan, that dude lives off of his brother's reputation alone. I also split Fewell's season in half, because it seemed like half the time they weren't very good and half they were unstoppable.

    Mine go like this:

    Jim Haslett B-
    Rob Ryan F
    Perry Fewell C 1/2 the time, B the rest
    Juan Castillo can still suck it.

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    Fewell is solid and Haslett is decent. The other two are turrible.
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    I'd rank them this way:

    Fewell
    Haslett
    Ryan
    Castillo

    I would agree that Rob Ryan is one of the most overrated coordinators in the league. If it wasn't for his dad and Rex, he probably wouldn't be a DC.

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    I wouldn't call Rob Ryan overrated so much as inexplicably employed. No one actually thinks he's good now and anyone who had followed his career ever had illusions of him being competent in Dallas. In fact, I'd be tempted to rank Ryan last. Castillo isn't good but at least he's a first year defensive coach who was forced to work with one of the worst linebacker corps ever assembled. What excuse does Ryan really have (besides being forced to work with Jerry)?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Enter Apotheosis View Post
    I wouldn't call Rob Ryan overrated so much as inexplicably employed. No one actually thinks he's good now and anyone who had followed his career ever had illusions of him being competent in Dallas. In fact, I'd be tempted to rank Ryan last. Castillo isn't good but at least he's a first year defensive coach who was forced to work with one of the worst linebacker corps ever assembled. What excuse does Ryan really have (besides being forced to work with Jerry)?
    Having to work with the worst secondary ever assembled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence Newman 41 View Post
    Having to work with the worst secondary ever assembled.
    Alright, you definitely have a point there



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    Quote Originally Posted by Enter Apotheosis View Post
    Alright, you definitely have a point there
    glad we agree lol

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    Haslett - Jigsaw
    Rob Ryan - Beer and Cigarettes
    Juan Castillo - Eric Estrada
    Perry Fewell - Leonard Roberts


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence Newman 41 View Post
    Having to work with the worst secondary ever assembled.
    Alright NEWMAN.....

    ... ESPN has some writers that actually don't froth over the Cowboys.

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    Only 28 of those players had a success rate below 50 percent, and three of those players were on the Cowboys. Terence Newman was the worst of the bunch, ranking 72nd in success rate and last among those 80 cornerbacks in yards per play.


    He goes on to explain that their historical comparisons to Newman indicate there's not much hope for a recovery, and concludes that it's time to move on. I agree. I'd say cornerback is the biggest need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWFLSkins View Post
    Alright NEWMAN.....

    ... ESPN has some writers that actually don't froth over the Cowboys.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...ffseason-needs

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    Only 28 of those players had a success rate below 50 percent, and three of those players were on the Cowboys. Terence Newman was the worst of the bunch, ranking 72nd in success rate and last among those 80 cornerbacks in yards per play.


    He goes on to explain that their historical comparisons to Newman indicate there's not much hope for a recovery, and concludes that it's time to move on. I agree. I'd say cornerback is the biggest need.
    Newman and Ball are as good as gone. Newman is due 4 million this year. He is 100% guaranteed gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence Newman 41 View Post
    Newman and Ball are as good as gone. Newman is due 4 million this year. He is 100% guaranteed gone.
    Do you lose your post title if you change your moniker? Not to laugh to hard though I think the Skins need some help in the backfield as well, just not nearly as serious as the Cowboys.
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