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    Default Re: Per Schefter & PFT: NFL salary cap debacle continues---updates include NFLPA filing collusion lawsuits---links and discussion current--MET

    Quote Originally Posted by mcskin30 View Post
    i have been trying to read that article all morning and it is the only one on that terribly designed site that doesn't come up. Anybody know what could be causing that?
    Mara!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOF44 View Post
    Mara!!!!!!
    Should've known!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSkin30 View Post
    I have been trying to read that article all morning and it is the only one on that terribly designed site that doesn't come up. Anybody know what could be causing that?
    yeah ive had the same problems.

    I had to copy and paste the link cause it didnt work and then when i got to the site there was nothing there but a headline that said "do the redskins have a $hot"
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    Default Re: Per Schefter & PFT: NFL salary cap debacle continues---updates include NFLPA filing collusion lawsuits---links and discussion current--MET

    Every time I read an article I get hopeful. But the reality is that short of a miracle I think we have to bend over and take it from Mara another year. Hopefully in the mean time we can build around the franchise and be relevant for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redskinss View Post
    yeah ive had the same problems.

    I had to copy and paste the link cause it didnt work and then when i got to the site there was nothing there but a headline that said "do the redskins have a $hot"
    I ended up reading it on my phone, which worked. Sheesh. I just don't understand technology sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redskinss View Post
    yeah ive had the same problems.

    I had to copy and paste the link cause it didnt work and then when i got to the site there was nothing there but a headline that said "do the redskins have a $hot"

    didn't work in IE8 but it did in Firefox

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    Default Re: Per Schefter & PFT: NFL salary cap debacle continues---updates include NFLPA filing collusion lawsuits---links and discussion current--MET

    Anyway someone could give an overview of the article, or better yet post it, for those of us who can't access it? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor 36 View Post
    Anyway someone could give an overview of the article, or better yet post it, for those of us who can't access it? Thanks.
    This is really the most interesting part of the article:

    We all know why the Redskins were penalized, but the most important element of Halsell’s article was that Bruce Allen essentially executed the same exact maneuver in Tampa with offensive lineman, Jeff Faine.

    Halsell at the writing of the article, mentioned the dubbed “I-4 Off-Ramp,” as the ‘same device’ as used in the Haynesworth and Hall contracts. Just for clarification, to make sure nothing had changed in Halsell’s understanding of the situation, he confirmed to ESPN 980 on Tuesday that the restructured deals in both Washington and Tampa were “exactly the same.”

    The greater point is this. We know that the NFL and the contract division of the league office approved the restructured contracts of both Haynesworth and Hall, as they did with Faine while Allen in charge in Tampa Bay. If they approved all three restructured deals, along with the Cowboys contracts – how is it that ONLY the Redskins and Cowboys were penalized?

    Tampa performed such a move while under a salary cap, which has to be the answer from the league – however it was beyond clear that the Bucs were trying to take advantage of the extra room they had under their cap, while also clearing out a ton of space moving forward, in 2009 and in the uncapped year of 2010.

    The strategy worked to a large degree, as they had a pirate ship full of money to spend in 2011 and 2012, after performing extremely well with a young, cheap and pared down roster in 2010.


    Of course, it would be nice if the league took the time to explain all of this maneuvering, but maybe they don’t – because they always seem to have something to hide.


    The person with knowledge said this in parting “It’s really disgusting what the league did to (the Redskins).”

    While it may be disgusting, it seems awfully hard to fathom how the Redskins will get some much needed relief.
    Just makes one even angrier. Honestly, it's the Redskins fans who lose the most here.
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    Default Re: Per Schefter & PFT: NFL salary cap debacle continues---updates include NFLPA filing collusion lawsuits---links and discussion current--MET

    This makes it more apparent why Tampa Bay abstained for voting for the CBA amendment...which happened after it was approved as a farce.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SittingBull View Post
    This makes it more apparent why Tampa Bay abstained for voting for the CBA amendment...which happened after it was approved as a farce.
    Yep, I now get it as well.

    Thanks PG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschlesi View Post
    Every time I read an article I get hopeful. But the reality is that short of a miracle I think we have to bend over and take it from Mara another year. Hopefully in the mean time we can build around the franchise and be relevant for years to come.
    Unfortunately, this is how it will roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    This is really the most interesting part of the article:



    Just makes one even angrier. Honestly, it's the Redskins fans who lose the most here.
    Thanks for posting this.

    It really disgusts me how blatantly wrong and backhanded this whole situation is. The injustice of it is pathetic. I will hold out hope that somehow, someway, things will be righted in the end. And, oh yeah, **** the Giants and **** Mara!!!

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    I ranted on the complexities of this situation and the injustice to my wife. She succinctly said, "Well the Redskins made the playoff and the Giants didn't." And that gave me some perspective. We just have one more season to navigate this mess and then this won't even matter.

    Just giving half full thoughts. I was/still plenty pissed about this.

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    The situation is righted in the end.

    WE WON THE DIVISION.

    Not just rubbing it in and saying ha ha, we won. We were able to achieve a relatively out-of-reach goal on reduced cap. Thus, players who may not of gotten oppurtunities now have playoff run under their belt. I'm over cap hit, develop more young players and brace for 2014...

    Start sizing ring fingers people
    Stop the Violence

    RIP Sean Taylor, may your passing serve as a message to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabbath1981 View Post
    "Well the Redskins made the playoff and the Giants didn't."
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez3 View Post
    The situation is righted in the end.

    WE WON THE DIVISION.
    Both quotes are true. We won the Division in a year we were supposed to do nothing of the sort. In a year they tried as hard as they possibly could to prevent us from being even a marginal team. For me though, it doesn't right the wrong. The thing is this is much bigger than the Redskins or Cowboys or even football. This is a case of a crime being commited in plain sight, and nobody stepping in to do anything about it. There are greater tragedies in life, but it is an absolute travesty that this has been allowed to happen. Big companies are not supposed to make a mockery of anti-labor laws and get away with it. There is a reason these laws exist, and the NFL is subject to them.

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