Per Schefter & PFT: NFL salary cap debacle continues---updates include NFLPA filing collusion lawsuits---links and discussion current--MET

[emor09]

Other than Chris Russell's tweet and Shanahan saying we are still fighting for it, is there any reason to believe we are going to get our money back?

[jadams5214]

Just for clarification this is the extent of what Chris Russell said about Skins and cap penalties from his twitter account exchange with fan - definitely nothing to get overly hopeful about yet...

Chris Russell ‏@Russellmania980
They feel good about chances somehow RT @ProFootballTalk:Shanahan suggests Redskins are still challenging cap penalties

TJaySkins ‏@TJaySkins
@Russellmania980 have you heard more than what he said today?

3h Chris Russell ‏@Russellmania980
@TJaySkins Of course I have...hence the reason why I asked the question. I just don't know if it is false hope.

3h TJaySkins ‏@TJaySkins
@Russellmania980 wasn't doubting...just looking for good news on this crappy day. Thanks

[Binton]

Yeah but he was more expensive and a lot older plus has had attitude problems in the past. No thanks.

Garcon is younger and cost less and has the upside to be as good/better. Better long term investment. Also Jackson has a reputation of being an ass.

tough to say. garcon hurt his foot during his first big catch week one. didnt get "healthy" again til dallas. thats most of the season.

still, even if they are equal production wise, garcon is younger and far cheaper.

Not really cheaper in the long run given the fact that he doesn't satisfy our #1 receiver need. Since everyone is screaming for a big tall receiver like Bowe it would've been smarter to pay a little more for Jackson. Our taller receiver is Hankerson and he's what? 6"3.

[Momma There Goes That Man]

Not really cheaper in the long run given the fact that he doesn't satisfy our #1 receiver need. Since everyone is screaming for a big tall receiver like Bowe it would've been smarter to pay a little more for Jackson. Our taller receiver is Hankerson and he's what? 6"3.

I don't know that we need a tall WR in this offense. I guess it always helps but in today's nfl it's not exactly the necessity it was especially when we have the scheme we do. We just need WRs who get better separation without play action.

[s0crates]

I'm glad to hear we still plan on fighting this, although it is by no means clear to me how we might do so.

[MrJL]

I'm glad to hear we still plan on fighting this, although it is by no means clear to me how we might do so.

sounds to me like we're already doing so, or we wouldn't expect it back

[ArtMonkwastheman]

I'd personally like to see Mara lose some cap and/or draft picks for being the leader of this crap going against his NFC East competition.

[justice98]

Not really cheaper in the long run given the fact that he doesn't satisfy our #1 receiver need. Since everyone is screaming for a big tall receiver like Bowe it would've been smarter to pay a little more for Jackson. Our taller receiver is Hankerson and he's what? 6"3.

Hankerson's actually bigger than Bowe. 6'3"s plenty big, Hank just isn't all that good. There aren't a lot of 6'5" WRs out there that can actually play outside of Calvin Johnson and Vincent Jackson.

[Redskin Diehard]

We really got screwed in this deal but its a blessing in disguise. Give me more Alfred Morris types and less Albert Haynesworths every day of the week. The days of Danny whipping out the checkbook are over. Fiscal responsibility is in effect in DC for the first time in our history.

[Bacon]

Hell, this is something to be hopeful about. Cool.

[jsharrin55]

We really got screwed in this deal but its a blessing in disguise. Give me more Alfred Morris types and less Albert Haynesworths every day of the week. The days of Danny whipping out the checkbook are over. Fiscal responsibility is in effect in DC for the first time in our history.

edit: Hopefully they just go after young guys similar to the last few years and resign our own. It would be really nice to get that money back, even if partial.

[DC9]

I'm almost willing to bet a full paycheck that we will not get Ryan Clady. That is a pipe dream, fellas. He's not taking a discount to come to Washington, DC to play with Shanahan... especially if he wins a Super Bowl this year.

[asacks]

I'm almost willing to bet a full paycheck that we will not get Ryan Clady. That is a pipe dream, fellas. He's not taking a discount to come to Washington, DC to play with Shanahan... especially if he wins a Super Bowl this year.

Seriously, Ryan Clady is a pro-bowl LT. We already have one of those on the team, there is no way we can or should have two. We need a solid RT, not a franchise LT, buying guys like this is how you kill your cap long term. i'd love to have him, but all this discussion about him is insane. Do we even know that the Broncos are not going to franchise him, and then, even if they didn't, why wouldn't a team without a star LT pay way more than we would for a RT? No chance this happens.

[Momma There Goes That Man]

Yeah we arent getting Clady because he isnt coming here to play RT but there are definitely cheaper yet still significant upgrades out there at RT that we can look for assuming we get the cap space back.

[HOF44]

I'm not gonna believe anything about getting any money back until I hear the mechanism they are using to get it overturned. We tried through the league, an arbitor, and it was refused, we were hoping the NFLPA suit might lead to something promising and it was dismissed. How exactly are they fighting this??????