Mcnabb comments about the skins and Rg3 on first take

[corsair_joe]

McNabb has always struck me as a dumbass, one in a long line this team has had under center of late. RGIII comes across as the exact opposite. It will be refreshing.

[andy614]

McNabb was never an accurate QB. I bet he's thrown more into the dirt than any QB ever has.

[NLC1054]

Oh Donovan. Oh plain, simple, stupid, ignorant Donovan.

Listen; I get it. You're unemployed. Ya got booted off three different teams and no one else cared. Seriously bro. Like, no one cared. No one cared even a little bit. Rex Grossman threw four picks in a football game and the next week all his teammates were still saying he deserved a chance; no one opened his mouth a peep for you, in Washington, or Philly, or Minnesota. No one likes you, dude. I get that you're bitter.

But dude...you sucked. You really did suck. We expected you to be one thing. We expected you to be Donovan McNabb, consumate professional, we expected you to work hard, play hard, study hard, be a leader in the locker room, stand up and rise above your former coach Andy Reid. We expected you, like Coach says, to do the little things to become better than you were.

But you didn't want that. Even after they booted your ass, you wanted some place more like Philly. That's why you were so desperate to go to Minnesota and play for Brad Childress again, right? Because that would be the most like Philadelphia. You never wanted to come here. I get it. What a slap in the face it must've been, McNabb, for the team that drafted you, that you helped lead to 6 NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl to trade you within the division like they weren't scared of you, and go with unproven Kevin Kolb and ex-convict Mike Vick.

You didn't want to come here, and your entire attitude proved that. "Shanahan didn't adjust the offense for you?". What about all those screen passes, Donovan? You know, the ones that more or less COMPLETELY disappeared when you left? What about all those Scat plays and designed checkdowns to Keiland Williams? How were we supposed to adjust?

You didn't bother learning the playbook, Donovan. You wanted it to be like Philly. You wanted to play in Andy Reid's offense. You couldn't even be arsed to learn the terminology. You, Donovan, YOU put the team in the wrong formations. YOU went to line of scrimmage and called your own plays, sabotaging any attempt Kyle could make to help you out. You went to the line with 3 plays, Donovan? Really? Is that why you needed a wristband? Because you had such a mastery of the offense that they actually ALLOWED you to go to the line with three plays.

Look, I'm not saying mistakes weren't made. That things couldn't have been better. But seriously; look in a mirror. You just got booted off your third team, bro. You had the backing of an entire coaching staff. You had Bill Musgrave go to bat for you, and straight up snicker and laugh at Mike Shanahan, saying he didn't understand why he wouldn't adjust to what you did. You go to Minnesota and Musgrave said they would build their offense around you to be comfortable...and you still couldn't lead your team. You went 1-5 doing things "your way", and when you got benched for the rookie, no one batted an eyelash. No one said no. No one stuck up for you.

Mike traded picks for you. He bought you here when no one wanted you. He bought you hear when Brett Favre was still stringing Minnesota along and they were happy to play along, when the Cardinals decided they'd rather try to hand the keys to Matt Leinart and go with Derek friggin' Anderson as a back-up, when Philly kicked your ass to the curb to run with Kolb and Vick. WE wanted you. The whole damn city did. Or at least most of us did. We wanted you to be the leader, the guy who would bring us back. We put our faith in you. And what do we get in return?

Derision and talk of ego. Have you ever thought once about why you're sitting at ESPN right now instead of getting ready for the 2012 season? It's ego, Donovan. Your ego. Your ego landed you behind a desk, because YOU wouldn't adjust, because YOU wouldn't bend. Because when Mike Shanahan traded picks for you, he was the only guy who wanted you, and you spit in the face of the only guy who wanted you. When he asked you to wear a wristband, he wasn't trying to humiliate you. He was trying to help you.

But you wanted to be Donovan McNabb. You didn't want to be a Redskins; you wanted to be a free-lancer, a playmaker. Kyle wanted you to take your five step drop, hit your back foot and throw it with that massive arm of yours. You wanted to free lance. You didn't want to go through progressions. You didn't want to read deep and work your way back.

You didn't want to open the playbook and really study it and become the best. The reason you're not a Super Bowl winner, the reason why you'll probably never be a Hall of Famer, is because you were just happy being good. The great ones are never happy just being "good". Peyton Manning is working his tail off right now to get back to what he used to be, and he may never be that again, but he's trying. Michael Vick is no longer content being good, just being "Mike Vick" like he was in Atlanta. The guy worked his ass off to become better.

You were content just being good. John Beck has more heart than you. Less talent, but more heart.

You suck, Donovan. YOU SUCK. We'll adjust to Robert Griffin III, because he's not you. The kid works. All he does is want to get better. All he wants to do is prove he's the best, and yeah, I'm going to be a homer and say that at some point he may very well be the best.

You were never the best. And Andy Reid realized that. We realized it a season too late. Minnesota realized it after 6 games. And more than that, you never wanted to be the best. You always half assed it in practice. You were always a little too lazy, a little too relaxed for your own good. A false leader. No one shed a tear when you left, no matter where you went, in any lockerroom. Because they knew you didn't work. You didn't really want it. You're happy being the very poor man's Dan Marino. Not winning a Super Bowl doesn't phase you.

And that's why you're a loser. That's why you suck.

That's why it didn't work. Andy Reid coddled you for all those years, and God bless him, he figured out early he couldn't make you do everything he wanted and "adjusted" to the fact that you were lazy, your fundamentals sucked and that he couldn't count on you to be the traditional kind of quarterback. So he let you freelance. And you floated along.

Mike didn't coddle you. He expected you to want to be the best. To practice hard, work hard, study hard, to know the offense, to suck it up sometimes and do what you were told.

You didn't. Here or in Minnesota. And now you're sitting at ESPN with Skip Bayless, aloof as always, not understand why no one wants you anymore.

It's because you sucked, Donovan. You absolutely suck.

You'll be a better person when you stop playing victim and realize this.

Hail.

[Hitman21ST]

Granziano has been on FIRE lately!

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...n-mcnabb-story

Watch the video to the five minute mark and beyond. McNabb contradicts himself!

Early in the video, these are his comments:

"No. I say that because a lot of times, ego gets too involved when it comes to being in Washington. Here's a guy coming out who's very talented, mobile, strong-armed. We've already heard he's intelligent. Football mind. Are you going to cater the offense around his talents and what he's able to do? Or are you going to bring the Houston offense with Matt Schaub over to him and have him kind of be embedded into that?"

Now, we all will agree that Schaub is the prototypical "pocket passer," will we not?

Moving on to the 5 minute mark in the video, here are McNabb's remarks (about RG3):

RG3 is a pocket passer who can make plays with his legs...I think he's a pocket passer - 3-step, 5-step, 7-step kind of guy. He does a great job of taking care of the football.

Isn't that Schaub also? Am I mistaken?

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

NLC1054, I don't think McNabb will be reading this thread

[NLC1054]

NLC1054, I don't think McNabb will be reading this thread

Yeah, I know, but still. If I didn't do that way it would've just been a lot of of profanity strung together into one incomprehensible luck of horribleness. I had to keep myself structured. Lol.

[wrecker]

[QUOTE=nightbird;8916407]That statement is factually incorrect.

He had high-powered offenses almost every year, post-Elway.

Brian Griese -- BRIAN GRIESE -- went to the pro bowl in 2001.

Jake Plummer -- JAKE PLUMMER -- took them to the AFC championship game.

Jay Cutler passed for 4,500 some yards in Shanny's last year.


QUOTE]


This is true. The main reason why the records weren't that good is because the defenses were terrible. The offenses were always good.

[Morning Wood]

ESPN : Both sides of the Donovan McNabb story

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...n-mcnabb-story

Ok, just an aside here... I think I'm falling in love with Dan Graziano. I mean, every piece he writes its just plain objective, smart, well articulated, unbiased in any way, free of spin, and chock full of simple common sense. He calls it like he sees it without any unnecessary bashing. Its so freakin refreshing to see a writer just tell the damn story.

[HA1LV1CT0RY]

I've lost all respect for McNabb. He must be really salty that he is an old washed up qb now. All class and character went on the door.

[Chachie]

i can envision a scenario where we stumble out of the gate. Griff will need time to learn the pro game, etc. The entire planet will be laughing at us and claiming Mc5 was right. I just hope we overcome that and he has a long, storied career here in DC.

[atlSkinfan]

I think I'll go with Gary Kubiak's assessment that he'll be perfect for us. You know considering Kubiak actually knows the system here, and mcnabb never learned it.

FTW, lol!!!!!!!!!!!

[1972FAN]

[QUOTE=wrecker;8916471]

That statement is factually incorrect.

He had high-powered offenses almost every year, post-Elway.

Brian Griese -- BRIAN GRIESE -- went to the pro bowl in 2001.

Jake Plummer -- JAKE PLUMMER -- took them to the AFC championship game.

Jay Cutler passed for 4,500 some yards in Shanny's last year.


QUOTE]


This is true. The main reason why the records weren't that good is because the defenses were terrible. The offenses were always good.

Well said Brother!

[Taylor 36]

i can envision a scenario where we stumble out of the gate. Griff will need time to learn the pro game, etc. The entire planet will be laughing at us and claiming Mc5 was right. I just hope we overcome that and he has a long, storied career here in DC.

I don't know, so far Shanny's track record at being proven right is pretty good.

[authentic]

Player reactions to McNabb benching:


Mike Sellers: “I feel sorry for Donovan. That’s my boy. But it is what it is.”

Brian Orakpo: “I was surprised, but it is what it is. Mike made the decision, he talked to Donovan before, and we have to live with it. But I’m excited. I wanna go down there and win this game, regardless of who’s out there.”

DeAngelo Hall: “It’s a little shocking. I don’t think none of us saw it coming, but it is what it is.”

Chris Cooley: “I think now, especially, because — since you’re out of the playoffs — you can really do whatever you wanna do,” Cooley said. “We’re gonna go and play hard, and that’s the most important thing, but you need to find guys that you want on this team. It’s not preseason, but it’s building the team at this point, so see what works.”

Kory Lichtensteiger: "and he should know, as he’s a guy who’s worked his way into the starting lineup this year. “Everything’s open.”

Santana Moss: “Honestly, man, when you’ve been doing something for awhile with one of ‘em, you hate to have to go through it,” Moss said. “But just knowing what kind of player Rex is and what kinda guy he is with this offense, we still have a chance with him.”

*Doesn't seem to me that they were necessarily crying a river when McNabb got benched...mmmmm

[Truant]

Ok, just an aside here... I think I'm falling in love with Dan Graziano. I mean, every piece he writes its just plain objective, smart, well articulated, unbiased in any way, free of spin, and chock full of simple common sense. He calls it like he sees it without any unnecessary bashing. Its so freakin refreshing to see a writer just tell the damn story.

You should. As far as I can tell he's been like this for some time now. Extremely objective and level-headed. He'll take a second and not side with the masses at first blush. And he's not trying to be a contrarian. He has a take, it's usually very logical and well-founded, and he articulates it well with a touch of humor.

I don't read the other writers of the other divisions quite as much, but it'd make sense to have one of their top writers working a division with teams/cities in NYC, Philly, DC, and Dallas.