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[NoVaO]

Also keep in mind the kind of demand good back-up quarterbacks can demand on the trade market. A couple of years from now, if a team needs a QB, and values Cousins as a starting caliber quarterback, they will give up plenty of value in exchange for him...likely two high non-first round picks. A 2nd and 3rd rounder for instance. I'm not sure if that's what the Redskins FO had in mind, but it could be the ultimate outcome in picking him.

[Destino]

This pick has more risk than reward. I'm not mad or demanding anyone lose their job but this is a flat out horrible pick. By making this pick they've introduced potential controversy to a town that has a history of loving the back up like no other. All of it goes away if RG3 meets or exceeds expectations right away, if cousins looks better initially the question becomes merit versus investment which is a bad place to be.

This also means well carry three QBs because I very much doubt the rookies backup is a lesser rookie. I hope Rex and Kirk get into a awkward tug of war over the clip board in camp.

[roanoker]

Bye Bye Beck

Don't forget to turn over your pencil and clip board to your replacement.

[martytheman]

i like the pick, he is a good value in the 4th i feel... should be a good backup

[Jericho]

I'll admit I was surprised by the pick. And most of the talking heads don't like it given the Redskins needs. But let's be honest. Very few 4th rounders become impact NFLers. You're generally drafting depth guys, if you even get that. Sure, occasional 4th rounders become great players. But acting like you have to draft a need position is laughable given the likelihood the pick does not pan out. I get the feeling the Redskins took Cousins as much for his work ethic and leadership more than anything. It seems the hope is that having him in the locker room can have as much impact as those that actually see the field. Whether this logic pans out remains to be seen. But I at least see the logic.

[War Paint]

This pick has more risk than reward. I'm not mad or demanding anyone lose their job but this is a flat out horrible pick. By making this pick they've introduced potential controversy to a town that has a history of loving the back up like no other. All of it goes away if RG3 meets or exceeds expectations right away, if cousins looks better initially the question becomes merit versus investment which is a bad place to be.

This also means well carry three QBs because I very much doubt the rookies backup is a lesser rookie. I hope Rex and Kirk get into a awkward tug of war over the clip board in camp.

The backup is usually popular among fans of most teams that don't have a stud QB starter. RG3 is expected to be a stud so I don't see a controversy happening at all. The only way a controversy starts to brew is if RG3 looks Blaine Gabbert bad and there are whispers of Cousins looking sharp in practice. I don't think fans are going to be calling for Cousins if RG3 has some expected rookie bumps in the road (maybe some drunk moron fans will who opinion means nothing). RG3 would have to look horrid and completely lost for there to be any risk of controversy IMO.

[Perky72]

Not thrilled at all, especially considering: McNabb may have sucked here regardless, but Shanahan(s) undermined and humiliated him by pulling him in that fourth quarter drive early, then benching him. We were 5-8 at that point, pretty bad but not as bad as under Grossman.

But my point is--if they're drafting Cousins to be a backup (or eventual trade-bait, though I think that theory is odd--could they likely trade him for anything higher than where he was just now picked at?), fine. If to "light a fire" under RGIII or give him camp competition or something ridiculous akin to their handling McNabb, I think it's a terrible pick. If we start 2-4 or 3-6 are they going to bench RGIII for Grossman or Cousins? After giving up 2 first round picks for a franchise rookie, I'd normally think that question so ridiculous as to not pose it. But we do have two years of (imo) utter mishandling of our QBs, and decades of mediocre QBs in general, so it's something that worries me.

[Tacoma Redskin]

I love the pick. We need the cupboard full at QB. Last year should have taught us that with Rex and Beck. Beck is not NFL caliber. I don't just say that because I loathe BYU (I'm a Ute). He just plain isn't good enough to be in the league.

[Perky72]

The backup is usually popular among fans of most teams that don't have a stud QB starter. RG3 is expected to be a stud so I don't see a controversy happening at all. The only way a controversy starts to brew is if RG3 looks Blaine Gabbert bad and there are whispers of Cousins looking sharp in practice. I don't think fans are going to be calling for Cousins if RG3 has some expected rookie bumps in the road (maybe some drunk moron fans will who opinion means nothing). RG3 would have to look horrid and completely lost for there to be any risk of controversy IMO.

It's not the fans I'm worried about, it's the Shanahans, who incited or added fuel to the McNabb-Grossman QB controversy by benching McNabb in that fourth quarter drive. Who they'd just traded a 2nd and spent $40 mil on. They don't seem to stand by their starting QBs if things are going poorly and the QB is playing poorly, even if the backup is less likely to win games.

And particularly this year, if the Skins suck Shanahan is gone. If we start poorly with RGIII, is he going to bench him to try to pass the buck and save his job? It frankly wouldn't surprise me.

ETA: hopefully this is all theoretical and RGIII plays well or at least not bad out of the gate! I'm just paranoid.

[War Paint]

It's not the fans I'm worried about, it's the Shanahans, who incited or added fuel to the McNabb-Grossman QB controversy by benching McNabb in that fourth quarter drive. Who they'd just traded a 2nd and spent $40 mil on. They don't seem to stand by their starting QBs if things are going poorly and the QB is playing poorly, even if the backup is less likely to win games.

And particularly this year, if the Skins suck Shanahan is gone. If we start poorly with RGIII, is he going to bench him to try to pass the buck and save his job? It frankly wouldn't surprise me.

I see your point. If the Shanahans pulled some stupid crap like that, I would actually welcome Snyder stepping in and say "not going to happen." That said, there is no reason to worry about something that isn't or highly unlikely to happen. RG3 would have to look like the biggest bust since Jamarcus Russel for anything like you're worrying about to happen. We need more than one good QB on the roster.

[Skinsfan4life83]

Shanahan isn't going anywhere no matter what his record is this year. He gets a pass with a rookie qb.

[JimboDaMan]

This pick has more risk than reward. I'm not mad or demanding anyone lose their job but this is a flat out horrible pick. By making this pick they've introduced potential controversy to a town that has a history of loving the back up like no other. All of it goes away if RG3 meets or exceeds expectations right away, if cousins looks better initially the question becomes merit versus investment which is a bad place to be.

This also means well carry three QBs because I very much doubt the rookies backup is a lesser rookie. I hope Rex and Kirk get into a awkward tug of war over the clip board in camp.

I don't see ANY possibility of a QB controversy. RGIII comes in riding a wave of good feeling that will carry him through his rookie season unless he shows he flat-out can't play NFL football. As far as team history, I'm thinking last year cured the fans of mooning over the backup QB. I mean, Rex Grossman had already been benched in favor of an absolute nobody becaus of his poor play, and still we were relieved when he got his job back.

[Destino]

Shanahan isn't going anywhere no matter what his record is this year. He gets a pass with a rookie qb.

It would take something very unusual for Shanahan to lose his job this season. More than simply a bad record.

[Backpack3r]

You guys trying to justify this pick are clueless

Mind boggling pick in the 4th round, this team has way too many holes to waste picks on a position that we DONT need anymore. We have no secondary, we are thin at linebacker, we always need depth on the O-line not to mention we need to replace Jammal Brown. I would have preferred us taking almost any other position on the football field besides punter, kicker and maybe runinng back before we picked a QB in this draft.

Very dumb pick

[KDawg]

Kirk Cousins is in no way, shape or form competition for RG3. None.

Cousins is competition for Grossman. If Grossman outperforms him, he'll likely be the 2nd string QB this year, and Cousins will be the third. We will carry three if Cousins shows any kind of promise whatsoever. Grossman's contract is up next year. At that point we'll have a second year player in Cousins sitting in our backup QB position.

If Cousins performs, he becomes excellent trade bait assuming Griffin turns out like we want him to. If the near impossible occurs and Griffin tanks, and Cousins turns out, we have a young guy that can step in.

This pick is covering a lot of ground for us. Worst case scenario, he gets cut in camp. But I doubt that one.

Furthermore, perhaps the FO doesn't like what's coming in the 2013 Draft as far as QBs go, so they wanted to find their backup now.

Relax, folks.

---------- Post added April-28th-2012 at 04:50 PM ----------

You guys trying to justify this pick are clueless

Oh, I am? Okay.