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    If Goff is healthy and can return to form, the LB corps just got real interesting, with Robinson and Kiehl in the mix as well. The only spot that might be up for competition is Riley's, but the depth will be greatly improved compared to last year either way. The DL rotation will be stronger with Jenkins back, the aforementioned LB corps will be stronger. The secondary is what it is, should be better, probably not significantly, but we'll see.

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    'K, as of right here, right now (I expect this to change after June 1st cuts etc):

    (Rookies in Yellow.).

    Offense. (25.)

    QB- RGIII/ Grossman/ Cousins
    RB- Helu/ Royster/ Morris
    FB- Young (With Morris above the swing back-up)
    WR- Garcon/ Hankerson/ Moss/ Morgan/ Paul/ Robinson
    TE- Davis/ Paulsen (With Paul above a swing back-up)
    LT- Williams, T./ Smith
    LG- Lichtensteiger/ LeRibeus
    C- Montgomery/ Garner
    RG- Chester/ Hurt
    RT- Polumbus/ Compton

    Defense. (25.).

    LDE- Jenkins/ Bowen
    NT- Coefield/ Nield
    RDE- Carriker/ Worthington
    ROLB- Kerrigan/ Alexander
    RILB- Riley/ Robinson
    LILB- Fletcher/ Goff
    LOLB- Orakpo/ Jackson, R.
    CB- Wilson/ Hall/ Torrence/ Griffin/ Thompson/ Crawford/ Minnifield. (I know, 7 CB's. But I think we place Minnifield on the active roster and hope he recovers his fitness to start to contribute this year rather than straight IR him. Something to monitor as the year rolls on.).
    FS- Jackson, T./ Williams, M.
    SS- Merriweather/ Gomes.

    Specialists. (3.).

    K- Rackers
    P- Rocca
    LS- Sundberg

    Practice Squad. (8.).

    OG- Gettis
    RB- Shaw
    WR/KR- Long
    DE- McNally
    NT- Barker
    OLB- White
    CB- Bernstine
    FS- Thomas

    The notable absentee is Cooley. I sadly hope I'm well wrong here, but with all the talk from the guys who follow the team closely, and Paul being penciled in as a swing guy, I fear we've seen the end of my current favorite Redskin in the B&G. Brown I don't even see beating off competition in camp. And Rackers finally is a consistent vet. to end the (failed) Gano experiment. (Hopefully.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbs Hog Heaven View Post
    And Rackers finally is a consistent vet. to end the (failed) Gano experiment. (Hopefully.).

    Hail.
    I would rather have Gano. Gano last year, if you take away the blocks which werent his fault, was 31-36. And of those 5 misses, only one was less then 48 yards. Rackers was 32-38. I would rather go with the young guy then Rackers who is 36. I think Gano is better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbs Hog Heaven View Post
    WR- Garcon/ Hankerson/ Moss/ Mason/ Paul/ Robinson

    By Mason do you mean Josh Morgan? I'm assuming you do.

    C- Montgomery/ Garner

    I don't really understand why anyone (and a lot of people seem to have him down) thinks Garner is going to make the active roster. I feel like the only reason people think this is because we need a "back-up" Center. But Lichtensteiger is actually supposed to be a natural fit at Center and LeRibeus is someone the staff has already said can play Center or Guard. Assuming both Lichtensteiger and LeRibeus make the roster, which I think they will, we already have two back-up Center's on the team. I think Garner's best/only shot is to make the practice squad.

    LDE- Jenkins/ Bowen
    RDE- Carriker/ Worthington

    Not to nit-pick but Jenkins has always been projected as the RDE and to compete with Carriker. I think Bowen is the lock to start and the competition is between Jenkins/Carriker for the starting RDE spot.
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    Meh, whichever end rotation plays works moondog. And it will be a 'rotation' all things being equal.

    Garner, along with Minnifield, are my picks of our draft outside of that dude that went one. Caught a lot of him looking at Blackmon last year, and being an 'adapted' Sooner, I've seen him up close the last two years. Dudes a prototype ZBS center. Athletic as all heck, whilst still being real physical against bigger D/NT's. Fantastic feet and get's to the second level well which works perfectly in what we do. Still raw, but man has he got starting potential written all over him. I was SHOCKED he went undrafted. And ecstatic we moved fast after the draft.

    Honestly expect him to both make the 53, and be a starter in the not too distant future.

    Thanks for the correction on Josh Morgan BTW, lol. Duly corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbs Hog Heaven View Post
    Meh, whichever end rotation plays works moondog. And it will be a 'rotation' all things being equal.

    Garner, along with Minnifield, are my picks of our draft outside of that dude that went one. Caught a lot of him looking at Blackmon last year, and being an 'adapted' Sooner, I've seen him up close the last two years. Dudes a prototype ZBS center. Athletic as all heck, whilst still being real physical against bigger D/NT's. Fantastic feet and get's to the second level well which works perfectly in what we do. Still raw, but man has he got starting potential written all over him. I was SHOCKED he went undrafted. And ecstatic we moved fast after the draft.

    Honestly expect him to both make the 53, and be a starter in the not too distant future.

    Thanks for the correction on Josh Morgan BTW, lol. Duly corrected.

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    Thanks for the extra info on Garner. Perhaps I was being too quick to assume people were only penciling him in because they didn't see others as back-up centers. I just feel there is a lot of depth across the board with the exception of corner/safety (I just don't see a quality nickel guy and our safeties are all average). This depth at all other positions is going to make it tough to make the final cut and is going to result in good players being released so I was a little surprised to see people project an UDFA on the final roster, but of course if he comes in and plays like you said he's capable, I'm all for it.

    As for the DE rotation - it definitely should be a rotation. That's why I was so adamant about bringing Carriker back because it gives us a rotation that consists of 3 starter quality guys. But I've only ever seen Bowen play on the left side and Carriker on the right. I'm very interested to see how they do rotate these guys because I think Carriker and Bowen are stout against the run as well as good pass rushers from the 3-4 DE spot. Cofield is the same as a NT so you don't really want to take any of them off the field and Jenkins supposedly is too good to keep off the field too. Great problem to have but I am very interested to see how they work in snaps for all of them.

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    I might be well off the mark with Grant as a pro (which wouldn't be the first time), but I really like the prospects for the guy from what I've seen of him at OSU. Although as you mentioned, a big thing going against him is the swing guard/ center abilities of two or three of our young guys. I guess how many we decide to keep at other positions will all play into that. But I'm personally real enthused he's on the books with a chance to show he belongs, as you can probably tell.

    Real interested to see how they go about the line rotation too. Jenkins is like an extra second round pick (can't WAIT to see him on a regular basis); and Doug Worthington has intrigued the heck out of me ever since he's arrived. If there's one thing the Steelers know, it's drafting 34 linemen. Really hope he makes the next step up in his career this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moondog View Post

    As for the DE rotation - it definitely should be a rotation. That's why I was so adamant about bringing Carriker back because it gives us a rotation that consists of 3 starter quality guys. But I've only ever seen Bowen play on the left side and Carriker on the right. I'm very interested to see how they do rotate these guys because I think Carriker and Bowen are stout against the run as well as good pass rushers from the 3-4 DE spot. Cofield is the same as a NT so you don't really want to take any of them off the field and Jenkins supposedly is too good to keep off the field too. Great problem to have but I am very interested to see how they work in snaps for all of them.
    I thought the knock on Carriker was that he was poor against the run last year? I don't know, but pretty sure I read that (maybe football outsiders?).

    Edit: Still a good (maybe even very good) rotation.
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    Jacoby Jones could be added to these lists...he was just cut by the Texans!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by issapunk View Post
    Jacoby Jones could be added to these lists...he was just cut by the Texans!!!
    vet minimum plus incentives

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    Quote Originally Posted by issapunk View Post
    Jacoby Jones could be added to these lists...he was just cut by the Texans!!!
    Man I would LOVE to see Jones come here.... can you imagin: Garcon, Hankerson, Morgan, Jones, Moss, Robinson?

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    Jammal Brown is going to make this team. Im sorry there is no-one else and Shanahan said he is healthier than before he got here. Remember he was resigned after he got here. Seems like a pretty clear sign to me.

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    Jacoby Jones is an interesting thought a slot WR and returner. Kind of a poor man's Royal. I wouldnt hate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny21 View Post
    Yeah, I'm thinking Hightower doesn't come back, though it's possible after they get a look at the two new guys.

    I think Paul definitely makes the team.

    I think Robinson makes it.

    Hurt has a shot (did he play too many games to be put on the PS?)

    6 safeties is a lot. I only see this happening if Griffin covers both positions (FS and corner).

    If I had to guess, Compton makes it over Polumbus (potential/youth trumps Polumbus' journeyman status). Although he (polumbus) brings the benefit of playing outside and in, I think they love their rookie lineman (this could change of course).
    Agree with your assessment.

    I think the following 2 WRs will be replaced, Terrence Austin and Aldrick Robinson. . They didn't impress in the opportunities they were provided.

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    I hope we cut Jammal Brown. He is an incompetent RT.

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    QB
    RG3
    Rex Grossman
    Kirk Cousins

    Probably the most locked in position. Cousins and Griffin will make the team. The only way Grossman gets cut is if Cousins does really really well. Which is not common for a 4th round rookie,

    RB
    Roy Helu
    Evan Royster
    Morris

    Basically there are no other great options. Sure, under Shanahan, it's not uncommon for a no-name rookie to emerge. And Hightower's still on the FA market. But as of today, here's the three that make the team.

    FB
    Darrel Young

    Unless Morris swings over here, and indications are he won't, there's no real competition

    WR
    Pierre Garcon
    Leonard Hankerson
    Josh Morgan
    Aldrick Robinson
    Santana Moss

    The first three are locks. Moss is not, but is really better than anyone else. He could play his way off the team coming in out of shape. Robinson has value for ST. So to does Austin. Neither has proven much in the passing game, however. which like means Moss stays.

    TE
    Fred Davis
    Chris Cooley
    Niles Paul

    Cooley could go. Paul might not stick at TE. Paulsen still looms. But it will be 3 of these 4 guys

    OT
    Trent Williams
    Jamaal Brown
    Willie Smith
    Compton

    Polumbus does not excite me. He's a journeyman and I think Compton shows enough that he does not need to be practice squaded

    OG
    Kory Lict
    Chris Chester
    Adam Gettis
    Josh LeRibeus
    Maurice Hurt

    Five guards seems excessive, but several can back-up at center

    C
    Will Montgomery

    25

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    DE
    Jarvis Jenkins
    Stephen Bowen
    Adam Carriker
    Scott

    First three are locks. I'll give an edge to Scott over Worthington and Golston

    NT
    Cofield
    Neild

    Pretty locked in here

    OLB
    Orakpo
    Kerrigan
    Jackson
    White

    I think White has to make it, meaning Jackson edges out the rest

    ILB
    Fletcher
    Riley
    Goff
    Robinson
    Alexander

    I like Goff, but am hardly sold on him

    CB
    Hall
    Wilson
    Kevin Barnes
    Brandon Thompson
    Cedric Griffin
    Byron Westbrook

    I think Griffin is used at corner and is solid there. Barnes and Thompson hold on to the last two spots.

    FS
    Tanard Jackson
    Bernstein

    Bernstein might be too raw, but we'll see

    SS
    Merriweather
    Gomes

    I like Merriweather as a SS. Gomes continues his development

    25

    LS/K/P
    Nick Sunberg
    Gano
    Rocca

    Gano beats Rackers. No one else has competition

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    PS
    Richard Crawford
    Minnifield - possible IR
    Lewis
    Garner
    Vaughn Meatoga
    Eain Smith
    Michael Shaw
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