NFL.Com: Browns thought Robert Griffin III was 'too small'(M.E.T.)

[cyfar]

Weeden: Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)Weight: 222 lb (101 kg)
Griffin: Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)Weight: 223 lb (101 kg)
2 inches shorter is "too small "? So small infact, that they would prefer a 28 year old rookie? With numerous holes in his game relative to Griffin? Revisionist history fits well.

He was too young as well. At the end of the day, they used a first round pick on a running back and an old QB. Good luck to the Browns.

[GibbsFactor]

Haha, they say this now after admitting to trying to trade the farm for him only to land another old guy draft pick that looks to be pretty decent.

Who are they kidding?

[Skinz4Life12]

they are delusional on the browns forum.

"the gipper" claims "they were not going to take the risk of giving up 3 first round picks plus to move up 2 spots to take him."

the only problem with "the gipper's" theory is that Holmgren came out and said himself that their offer was every bit of the Redskins offer to move up

[authentic]

they are delusional on the browns forum.

"the gipper" claims "they were not going to take the risk of giving up 3 first round picks plus to move up 2 spots to take him."

the only problem with "the gipper's" theory is that Holmgren came out and said himself that their offer was every bit of the Redskins offer to move up

Here you go... their delusional fans and their F.O. are all full of

“Honestly, when it didn’t happen I think there are reasons that I can’t go into right now, but there is a very close relationship between the people getting the deal done and the people who offered. And I’m not sure anything we offered would have been good enough. We were very, very aggressive and it didn’t work,” Holmgren said

[DaMuller7]

Wearing 19, but DaMuller7. That would be awesome for you, good luck.

Are you tall enough?

Browns could probably use you.

I'm 6'4" 228, so I think I'd be just about right for the QB position Also, the number 7 is just my favorite number, but jersey number 19 was the only one available at that time hahaha

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Before this draft I would have lobbied for you my friend.

Thanks man me too, because I know for a fact I probably have more accuracy than Beck and Grossman combined and am much faster, but I'm glad Snyder draft Griffin instead

[authentic]

Thanks man me too, because I know for a fact I probably have more accuracy than Beck and Grossman combined and am much faster, but I'm glad Snyder draft Griffin instead

hey you can still go into camp and battle Rex for the #3 spot... (joking)

[DogofWar1]

I like the forum post where the guy talks about how Griffin only shredded second rate Big 12 secondaries, and then completely forgets that Weedon is from the same conference.

I think the # of people on that forum went up by about a third when you guys signed up there to comment.

The thing none of them realize there is that they are still missing WRs. Little is the only guy with any serious potential, Cribbs is mainly a returner, and everyone below them is probably a WR4 or 5 on most teams. Weedon is also older, and will probably suffer some big hits in their division. If they had injury concerns with RGIII, then they should be doubly worried about Weedon.

[DaMuller7]

hey you can still go into camp and battle Rex for the #3 spot... (joking)

Hahahahaha Rex wouldn't want me there competing with him. It'd be too overwhelming for him to have three guys better than him in camp lol

[Punch it in]

Hahahahaha Rex wouldn't want me there competing with him. It'd be too overwhelming for him to have three guys better than him in camp lol

Well than you could just go find Beck and throw footballs at him as hard as you can....

---------- Post added June-7th-2012 at 11:11 AM ----------

I like the forum post where the guy talks about how Griffin only shredded second rate Big 12 secondaries, and then completely forgets that Weedon is from the same conference.

I think the # of people on that forum went up by about a third when you guys signed up there to comment.

The thing none of them realize there is that they are still missing WRs. Little is the only guy with any serious potential, Cribbs is mainly a returner, and everyone below them is probably a WR4 or 5 on most teams. Weedon is also older, and will probably suffer some big hits in their division. If they had injury concerns with RGIII, then they should be doubly worried about Weedon.

Agree with everything you say except for Weedon suffering bigger hits in their division. Giants pass rush is the most brutal in the league, and the Eagles D was coming on STRONG last year - also Ware in Dallas could be the most formidable of all. The Ravens and Steelers are getting a little long in the tooth and isnt Suggs out for the year>? That being said, I think RG-3 and the redskins are better equipped to evade and protect -

[LegendaryNumber5]

This just in. Brown's officials are claiming the NFL is too weak of a league and there is no real competition. Plan to withdraw from the league and seek out a spot in the highly competitive CFL.

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I'm 6'4" 228, so I think I'd be just about right for the QB position Also, the number 7 is just my favorite number, but jersey number 19 was the only one available at that time hahaha

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Thanks man me too, because I know for a fact I probably have more accuracy than Beck and Grossman combined and am much faster, but I'm glad Snyder draft Griffin instead

Whats funny is I was going through my old PMs the other day and read through the conversation you and I had about your sig. This was ages ago.

Sometimes I forget that I've been on this board a whopping 8 years.

[DaMuller7]

Whats funny is I was going through my old PMs the other day and read through the conversation you and I had about your sig. This was ages ago.

Sometimes I forget that I've been on this board a whopping 8 years.

Yeah man I still have your PM that you sent me helping me out!!! Thanks a bunch again man... Also, I just looked at my join date as well and I'm just 2 months older than you on this board, here's to looking at nine years soon!!!

---------- Post added June-7th-2012 at 11:52 AM ----------

Well than you could just go find Beck and throw footballs at him as hard as you can....

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Hahahahahaha trust me, when I was watching games with Beck in it I would of loved to throw a fast one at his head and say "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING MORON!!!"
Agree with everything you say except for Weedon suffering bigger hits in their division. Giants pass rush is the most brutal in the league, and the Eagles D was coming on STRONG last year - also Ware in Dallas could be the most formidable of all. The Ravens and Steelers are getting a little long in the tooth and isnt Suggs out for the year>? That being said, I think RG-3 and the redskins are better equipped to evade and protect -

[pjfootballer]

I read all the posts in that thread on the Browns board and one thing is certain, Zombo cannot debate without resorting to insults and calling people "idiots" or "retarded." Surprised he can form a complete sentence since he's, what, about 8 years old?

---------- Post added June-7th-2012 at 01:37 PM ----------

I like the forum post where the guy talks about how Griffin only shredded second rate Big 12 secondaries, and then completely forgets that Weedon is from the same conference.

Too funny. I hadn't thought about that either.

[NLC1054]

So...I posted this....

If the Browns thought RG3 was too small...why even make the offer in the first place?

Other than the fact that the notion is bull, it seems to me that's the kind of thing that would be a red flag before you start negotiating to trade up to number two to draft him, and we know that the Browns were negotiating for the second overall pick. Holmgren said as much in that conference call he had with season ticket holders, that they tried "everything possible" to try to draft RG3, and he implied heavily that the reason the deal didn't get done was because of prior relationships within the Redskins and Rams front offices. Which may have held some water, if it hadn't come out that the Browns low-balled the St. Louis Rams with their offer, and then tried to match the Redskins offer after the deadline the Rams said.

So he was too small, but they were still willing to give up the same number of draft picks the Redskins did to get him?

And then, the Browns moved up one spot to draft Richardson. There's no problem with drafting Richardson, despite what Jim Brown says I think he'll be a very good player in the NFL. They likely did so because they felt someone else would jump up and draft him. So they gave up three draft picks---draft picks you needed---to move up one spot...only to find out that they weren't in any danger of losing Richardson.

So they give up a fourth, fifth and seventh round pick to move up one spot to get a guy that they could've drafted if they'd just stayed at four, because they panicked because they didn't want to get leapfrogged by Tampa Bay, I'm guessing. Even though Tampa didn't have the kind of ammo to move up.

This is turn leaves the Browns with no ammo to move up and get Kendall Wright, who got drafted by the Titans before the Browns could get him, which lead to the Browns panicking a second time, which lead to them drafting Weeden in the first round. And again; no problem with Weeden. I thought he was a way better prospect coming out than Tannehill. But they got no value for that pick.

And just to add a little more "whhaaaaat?" to the mix, they drafted Mitchell Scwartz in the second round. And yeah, Scwartz looks like he could be an okay right tackle...but they had the opportunity to help out their receiving core (Holmgren also said they tried everything possible to get someone like Pierre Garcon or Josh Morgan to no avail) by taking Rueben Randall or Stephen Hill, and THEN they moved down in the third round, which made this miss on receivers like T.J Graham, DeVier Posey and T.Y Hilton, all of whom were better all around better prospects than Travis Benjamin, who is fast, but can't get get off press coverage.

So they spent three draft picks on a guy they could've spent one on, drafted a 28-year-old quarterback in the first round, addressed right tackle but only drafted one receiver, a receiver who struggles getting off press and getting separation. On top of that, they spent a lot of picks on defense, but no one they drafted is going to help them with their pass rush and to get more sacks.

...You can see how we're a bit confused on how you're not a little more miffed...

And one of their administrators posted this in response...

I don't think you're confused in as much as you're stupid.

If Griffin turns out to be worth three first rounders and a second versus staying pat and grabbing Weeden with our second first rounder, that's one thing, but most feel Weeden can be very good and the age thing is just about immaterial. I guess we'll worry about his age when he's 37.

We threw in a couple garbage picks to secure Richardson, the best running back prospect in years, so, kudos to our front office on that one. Sitting at four while someone else traded ahead of us and took him would have sucked ass.

Schwartz was the highest rated pure right tackle in the draft, so we went out and got exactly what we wanted there.

Sorry we didn't have a fourth pick in the top 40 to get a WR too, but, guess what, we're not mortgaged next year when there is a boatload of talent at WR coming out ... who are you guys going grab next year? OH ... married to the over-rated retreads for awhile ... OK, good luck with all that.

So yeah. Just a reminder; bad as it gets around here, it could always be so, so much worse.

[DogofWar1]

Agree with everything you say except for Weedon suffering bigger hits in their division. Giants pass rush is the most brutal in the league, and the Eagles D was coming on STRONG last year - also Ware in Dallas could be the most formidable of all. The Ravens and Steelers are getting a little long in the tooth and isnt Suggs out for the year>? That being said, I think RG-3 and the redskins are better equipped to evade and protect -

Oh, I didn't compare our division vs. theirs, more I was mentioning it in relation to Weedon's durability in a situation where he'll take big hits vs. RGIII's durability.

Weedon will take some big hits in that division, and if they felt like RGIII couldn't handle them then they should be really concerned about Weedon.

I think our divisions pass rushers are some of the best in the league, the Giants certainly are already at the top, the Cowboys are very solid with Ware, and the Eagles have great guys too. Ours isn't shabby either, and improving.