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    There is only one the in question to me when I consider RGIII and the 2012 Redskins..

    Will the expectations be realistic? Yes this young man is a talent and he has the upbringing and work ethic to back it up. But DC is decades starved for a Franchise QB to take this team to the lofty hieghts we once enjoyed in the 80's.

    This initial season for Griffin will be one of survival. His success or failure will greatly depend on the O-Line & Running Game both must produce for our new QB to have a chance. Even though he is quite capable of escaping the pass rush and moving the chains that should be an option not a necessity.

    I will be watching the progression of the running game closely during the pre season. Though it may seem to some that not having a guy were naming the feature back as we speak nor do we know how our starting O-Line will be.

    The competition during camp and the pre season will be great at both positions and that can bring out the best in your roster
    So I guess what I'm getting at is the expectations of Griffin will greatly depend on whats happening around him....

    Redskin Fan are some of the most knowledgeble fans in the league but they also have been put through a long drought of football hell....

    Let's hope that the process that has begun will be given the chance to mature this is year one for RGIII he will make us cheer at times but there will be a few times we cry too HTTR

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    I kinda feel like the people that will be impatient with RGIII's development will be the bandwagon fans. People that saw the trade and said, "Look! The Redskins have a QB now! I suddenly care again!!!1!"

    Robert is still a rookie QB, and like all other rookie QBs, their performance and development can be hard to predict. Peyton Manning was terrible his rookie year, and very solid after that (at least in the regular season). Josh Freeman was great as a rookie and then hit the wall in his sophomore season. Eli Manning was a much slower progression but has been pretty polished the past few seasons.

    I'm also interested to see how the trio of last year's rookies (Cam, Dalton, and Gabbert) perform this year.
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    Probably... I'm making a real effort to temper my expectations this season for the gang as a whole and RGIII in particular. I'm sure he'll make a few mistakes simply by trying to win a game by himself, just like any rookie. Whatever, I'll deal with it as long as he doesn't get himself put on the disabled list attempting it.
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    I think some of the level headed fans are aware of the growing pains for a rookie QB. However, it's the knee-jerks, bandwagoners, and chicken littles that will cry for Kirk Cousins.


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    Go back and look at our quarterback thread last year.

    I, for one, said that we finally have a real set of quarterbacks. In Mr. **** It I'm Going To The Bench for Mr. Ten Sack.

    Our expectations are always sky high, and there are fans who would be pissed with 19-0 and only winning the Super Bowl by two touchdowns when a real quarterback would have gotten seven.
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    I just hope Danny is patient with Shanny. If we don't make the playoffs, but show a lot of potential and RG3 is really coming on at the end of the season, then I think I would be alright with that...
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    Default Re: Will the expectations for RGIII overshadow realistic progression?

    In a word, yes.

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    With the recent initial success of several rookie QB's like Dalton, Ryan, Newton (not a winning record, but put up great numbers).....combined with all the hype around RGIII and the win now attitude of many fans (and management), it is difficult to keep the big picture in perspective. But even great QB's often start slow.....look at Peyton Manning's rookie season for example.

    We have what could turn out to be our franchise QB for the next decade or so. He could be a huge factor in our relevance (or lack therein) during that time. While I would be doing backflips if he lit up the NFL this season, and we made the playoffs.....I would be content with a good rookie season and a decent record, where RGIII stays healthy, progresses during the season, and overall shows that he is worthy of the adulation that he has received thusfar.

    We have waited a loooooong time for a franchise QB.....certainly can show patience as a fan now that we may finally have one.

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    There have been many extremeskins debates about getting the franchise QB first and then building the team or building the team and then getting the QB. Well, coach has built the team first, so that is the path laid out for RGIII. This path should keep RGIII from struggling like Payton did his first year. If the oline stays healthy I feel the rest of the offense it ready and waiting for a QB that can perform. With a little luck and health, I expect a dramatic turn around in our offense. With luck and health, I expect our team to average over 21 points a game and have more that two games in the 30s.

    This team is primed for a good QB and I think we have him. I think team expectations are too low, although we have a tough schedule. 4 - 2 in the division and we will make the playoffs. RGIII wins rookie of the week at least 1 time and offensive player of the week at least 1 time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorPickSix View Post
    I kinda feel like the people that will be impatient with RGIII's development will be the bandwagon fans. People that saw the trade and said, "Look! The Redskins have a QB now! I suddenly care again!!!1!"
    I agree with you here buddy! He's a long term solution and it's going to be a process before he masters the NFL. HTTR

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    It's quite a different atmosphere than past seasons where expectations where limited to hoping the same overpaid scrubs wouldnt repeat the mistakes of past seasons...To looking forward to a group of young ,hungry athletes go out there and punch somebody in the mouth...HTTR

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    I think he's really going to struggle at times.

    The offense he played in at Baylor... well, it wasn't exactly the best training ground for the NFL.

    And people that point to Cam Newton need to acknowledge that Cam is probably the greatest physical specimen ever to play QB. Bigger, faster Elway. A man among boys even at the NFL level -- he was able to play at a high level even though he didn't know what he was doing half the time. I'm not sure RG3 will be able to do that.

    We are also in a brutal division.

    Of course, I hope I am wildly wrong and he is a stud from day one.

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    Default Re: Will the expectations for RGIII overshadow realistic progression?

    Nope. RG3 is going to exceed our wildest expectations.

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    I really don't think people have any idea how different the Baylor offense is from Shanny's offense. Or any NFL offense for that matter. The coaches basically have to teach RG3 from the ground up.

    BUT... this offense gets receivers open like no other in the NFL. Good Rex showed what this offense is capable of even with crappy weapons. Bad Rex... well, Bad Rex. If nothing else, it will be nice to see a QB not underthrow someone deep anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeBilly View Post
    There have been many extremeskins debates about getting the franchise QB first and then building the team or building the team and then getting the QB. Well, coach has built the team first, so that is the path laid out for RGIII. This path should keep RGIII from struggling like Payton did his first year. If the oline stays healthy I feel the rest of the offense it ready and waiting for a QB that can perform. With a little luck and health, I expect a dramatic turn around in our offense. With luck and health, I expect our team to average over 21 points a game and have more that two games in the 30s.

    This team is primed for a good QB and I think we have him. I think team expectations are too low, although we have a tough schedule. 4 - 2 in the division and we will make the playoffs. RGIII wins rookie of the week at least 1 time and offensive player of the week at least 1 time.
    I agree with some of your statements....such as I expect our offense to be far more productive than last season, or the past few seasons for that matter. However, I do not agree that RGIII is stepping into a team that is already built and merely awaiting a QB. I would say that we are certainly heading toward being a complete team.....but still too many question marks on the Oline....WR.....secondary.....
    Don't think we are far off.....and maybe we will be one of those teams this season who comes from "nowhere" to be revelant.....if all the pieces of the roster puzzle perform well, or exceed expectations.

    BTW our schedule is actually ranked as 24th most difficult, for what that is worth.

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