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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    Wondering if I should re-title the thread.

    I'm considering "The GOP's latest plan to change election laws to favor their Party".

    Naples News/AP: GOP eyes new election laws in key states

    BOSTON — After back-to-back presidential losses, Republicans in key states want to change the rules to make it easier for them to win.

    From Wisconsin to Pennsylvania, GOP officials who control legislatures in states that supported President Barack Obama are considering changing state laws that give the winner of a state's popular vote all of its Electoral College votes, too. Instead, these officials want Electoral College votes to be divided proportionally, a move that could transform the way the country elects its president.

    Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus endorsed the idea this week, and other Republican leaders support it, too, suggesting that the effort may be gaining momentum. There are other signs that Republican state legislators, governors and veteran political strategists are seriously considering making the shift as the GOP looks to rebound from presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Electoral College shellacking and the demographic changes that threaten the party's long-term political prospects.

    "It's something that a lot of states that have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at," Priebus told the Wisconsin Journal Sentinel, emphasizing that each state must decide for itself.
    Got a state where the GOP has gerrymandered the state, so that a state which votes D has a Republican legislature? Well, now you can gerrymander the Presidential election, too!
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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    Wondering if I should re-title the thread.

    I'm considering "The GOP's latest plan to change election laws to favor their Party".

    Naples News/AP: GOP eyes new election laws in key states



    Got a state where the GOP has gerrymandered the state, so that a state which votes D has a Republican legislature? Well, now you can gerrymander the Presidential election, too!
    O would still have won, 272-256 if my math is right (assuming every state had moved to that type of electoral vote awarding).

    The problem would be that some states would lose electoral votes in the reporting since some of the vote would be split fractionally and anything less than .50 of a electoral vote would rounded down to 0.

    For example, Romney won 60.55% of the Alabama vote, resulting in 5 electoral votes (out of 9). Obama would have gotten 3 votes (of out 9) since he won 38.36% of the vote. The remaining candidates would be reported as getting 0 electoral votes - thus shorting Alabama an electoral vote.
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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Evil Genius View Post
    O would still have won, 272-256 if my math is right (assuming every state had moved to that type of electoral vote awarding).
    But they aren't proposing every state move to that.

    They're proposing it only for states where the state votes D, but the districts are R.

    (I think the term is "gerrymandered").
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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    But they aren't proposing every state move to that.

    They're proposing it only for states where the state votes D, but the districts are R.

    (I think the term is "gerrymandered").
    Chris Matthews just showed the states they're targeting, per Reince Priebus(what a name!)...Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. Ed Rendell said we should use popular vote, not electoral college. I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinsmarydu View Post
    Chris Matthews just showed the states they're targeting, per Reince Priebus(what a name!)...Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. Ed Rendell said we should use popular vote, not electoral college. I agree.
    If it were a weighted proportional electoral college vote I'd be for it actually.

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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    It's a lot easier than trying to win votes through new ideas, i guess.

    Just like the founders intended.

    ~bang

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    Default Re: Yahoo/AP: Tough ID laws could block thousands of 2012 votes

    Thought I'd bring this one over from the "Daily Show" thread, since it's on this topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky21 View Post
    Have you guys seen this?
    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...te-republicans

    I'm becoming more and more embarrassed by my State.
    Wondering what the excuse is to be redistricting the state, in 2013.
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