2012 Fantasy Football Thread

[stevemcqueen1]

Non-PPR is so boring to me. I don't know how people can do it anymore. I guess some purists are purists.

Au contraire. PPR adds a large element of predictability to your league, especially when you approach the draft. Reception totals are way more predictable year to year than yardage and TD totals. I think it takes some of the dynamic and dynamism out of fantasy.

I like PPR because it rewards a skillful, well prepared player, plus it at least tries to acknowledge the tremendous real life value of receptions. But I don't mind playing touchdowns leagues because it keeps the pure running back and big play receiver viable, potent plays. I think it actually opens up the league by making more types of W/R available.

That said, what I don't understand is why anyone still does snake drafts instead of auctions? Drafts are such an inferior format. They reward stupid luck even more. You're set if you get a top pick and screwed if you get stuck in the middle. You lose the league on draft day because you were unfortunate to draw the 7th pick out of a hat. The auction format is better in every way. It definitely rewards skill because everyone has a chance at every player. It's a thousand times more engaging because you get to be involved in the picking of every player. It's far more dynamic and unpredictable, and therefore, more fun. Bidding adds an element of poker/psychology to it. And it's FANTASTIC to do with your friends. Unless you've done it before, you don't know how much fun it is to precipitate bidding wars between your friends for players you know they desperately want that you don't even care about. You haven't truly loved fantasy until you've gotten your buddy to pay 70 dollars for Adrian Peterson.

My family league STILL does a snake draft every year and it frustrates me to no end. I've pushed for an auction every year but the family is set in their ways and they're intimidated by the change. It sucks because this is the only league I care about winning, and the only league I put money on.

Also, I think keeper leagues are total bull**** too. It's for people who want to haze new owners and/or aren't confident enough in their own skill to win a fair competition. Needed to get that off my chest.

[Pick6]

14 team PPR league. w/ only 3 bench spots on our roster. bonuses for TD's over 30 yds and KR and PR yards also count.

I just got the 10th pick. i can assume 4 QB's (rogers, brady, brees,cam) 3 RB's ( rice, foster, shady) and Megatron are not on the board @ 10. if so i'd be happy w/ any of them. What should I do at 10 and again on the comeback #19? I'm not really high on stafford due to history of injuries. thanks for the help.

CJ2K, Forte, or Charles. On the turn target a guy like Sproles or Mathews.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Anyone on here on or try fanduel?

[earl]

CJ2K, Forte, or Charles. On the turn target a guy like Sproles or Mathews.

so you like all those backs over Mcfadden? and after megatron how would you rank the next 3 WR's?

[drtdrums]

Anyone interested in an ES league with a DEEP format?

Just testing the waters here...if I get one or two bites, I'll create the league at Yahoo.

10 team PPR format:

QB - 2
RB - 3
WR - 3
WRT - 3
TE - 2
DEF - 2
K - 2

No IDP

1 point per 10 yards Rushing, Receiving, Returning
1 point per 20 yards passing

Live draft would be Sunday at 4:30

[stevemcqueen1]

14 team PPR league. w/ only 3 bench spots on our roster. bonuses for TD's over 30 yds and KR and PR yards also count.

I just got the 10th pick. i can assume 4 QB's (rogers, brady, brees,cam) 3 RB's ( rice, foster, shady) and Megatron are not on the board @ 10. if so i'd be happy w/ any of them. What should I do at 10 and again on the comeback #19? I'm not really high on stafford due to history of injuries. thanks for the help.

My instinct is Chris Johnson in the first. I think you should go that way if he's there.

Hard to say on the comeback because who knows who would be available at that point. If I were you, I'd look for the best RB or high receptions receiver available probably. Roddy White is a solid, consistent play. Stafford will probably be gone and no other QB seems worth a second rounder.

I'm not high on Stafford this year either. I think the Lions are going to regress. They've got talent, but they're young and you're starting to see discipline problems becoming acute now that the luster is wearing off. Young teams that take big steps forward often take a step back (Kansas City). He's already hurt his hand and it's only a matter of time before megatron goes down. Mikael Leshoure is untested, Jahvid Best can't seem to stay healthy, and the OL is still crap. Plus the schedule should be harder this season.

Of the five elite QBs from last season, I think he and Cam are both likely to take a big step back in fantasy production. I wouldn't even take Cam in the first round of my QB friendly league this year. There is no way he's even coming close to matching those rushing totals, and he's not going to take a huge leap forward in passing production yet.

[Pick6]

so you like all those backs over Mcfadden? and after megatron how would you rank the next 3 WR's?

Honesty, Run DMC always worries me, because he can't stay healthy. Plus, I think the 3 I listed have more upside in a PPR. I wouldn't take a WR in the first round, especially in a 14 team league. RB is still pretty valuable in fantasy football and it is hard to get good ones the deeper you go in a draft.

[RVAbrendan]

Had another draft. Loaded up at RB and WR. I need to drop SOMEBODY to get a kicker, though. Here is some bench depth of mine - need to drop one.

-Kevin Smith (injured)
-Mikel LeShoure (suspended, but some good upside)
-Rueben Randle (love his upside)
-Mike Tolbert (could be a TD machine)

Also have Kendall Wright and Jacquizz Rodgers, but I'd rather not cut them.

Any thoughts?

[earl]

Honesty, Run DMC always worries me, because he can't stay healthy. Plus, I think the 3 I listed have more upside in a PPR. I wouldn't take a WR in the first round, especially in a 14 team league. RB is still pretty valuable in fantasy football and it is hard to get good ones the deeper you go in a draft.

I hear you but i've been pretty successful in this league and even won it 2 years ago w/ the model of QB, WR, WR in the first 3 rounds. i think the big difference is that we only have 3 on our bench. so i don't have the luxury of keeping 2 QB's or and extra WR to play the matchup game.... i'd rather have no headache must starts at those 3 positions, so i can stack up on RB depth.... i'm a strong believer in quantity over quality at the RB position because too many RB's split time or just flat out bust. The year i won it all, i got foster in the 6th round and peyton hillis in the 9th. before anyone knew who they were. RB to me seems like a crap shoot so i'd rather have more chips to play. So my strategy has always been pass on the "top tier" early picks and then have my pickings rounds 4-10 while everyone else is drafting QB's and WR's. But i'm not completely married to that strategy this year.

w/ that in mind who are your top 5 WR's after megatron.

[Bliz]

Who should I start for my Week 1 flex: Rashad Jennings vs MIN, Stevie Johnson vs NYJ, or Alfred Morris vs NO?

I'm thinking definitely not Johnson, as he'll be lost on Revis Island. Leaning towards Jennings over Morris.

If MJD isn't playing, I think it's Jennings easy. At this point tough to see MJD being ready to go week 1, but obviously you have to listen out.

I believe Stevie put up good numbers against Revis both times they played last year, but it's still risky. Morris...problem is that Saints offense, and the likelihood that we are playing from behind and forced to abandon the run. Plus who the hell knows what Shanny is doing at RB anyway. Agree with Btubes, Wayne might be a safer choice than either one

[stevemcqueen1]

Honesty, Run DMC always worries me, because he can't stay healthy. Plus, I think the 3 I listed have more upside in a PPR. I wouldn't take a WR in the first round, especially in a 14 team league. RB is still pretty valuable in fantasy football and it is hard to get good ones the deeper you go in a draft.

That's where I'm at. But a healthy season from Run DMC is an elite RB1 season. That late in a 14 team league, the upside is pretty high.

I'm the type that doesn't want to have to micromanage a middling team to a first round playoff exit. I'd rather swing on some of my early picks to try and win the league or finish at the bottom with a bunch of misses.

[Pick6]

I hear you but i've been pretty successful in this league and even won it 2 years ago w/ the model of QB, WR, WR in the first 3 rounds. i think the big difference is that we only have 3 on our bench. so i don't have the luxury of keeping 2 QB's or and extra WR to play the matchup game.... i'd rather have no headache must starts at those 3 positions, so i can stack up on RB depth.... i'm a strong believer in quantity over quality at the RB position because too many RB's split time or just flat out bust. The year i won it all, i got foster in the 6th round and peyton hillis in the 9th. before anyone knew who they were. RB to me seems like a crap shoot so i'd rather have more chips to play. So my strategy has always been pass on the "top tier" early picks and then have my pickings rounds 4-10 while everyone else is drafting QB's and WR's. But i'm not completely married to that strategy this year.

w/ that in mind who are your top 5 WR's after megatron.

As you can tell my strategy has been the opposite. Go RB first two rounds and then pick best avaiable. Then I draft heavy at the end of WR or RB to hope for a sleeper and match D week to week.

Anyways, my top 5 WR after Megatron in a PPR: Fitz, Welker, Jones, White, Johnson.

[GibbsFactor]

Non-PPR is so boring to me. I don't know how people can do it anymore. I guess some purists are purists.

I've been playing fantasy football since 96. I've been in up to 15 leagues a year. I've never once played in a PPR league.

[DogofWar1]

w/ that in mind who are your top 5 WR's after megatron.

Depends a bit on QB-WR chemistry.

If we're going purely by yardage, top 5 after Megatron were: Welker, Cruz, Fitzgerald, Smith, and White. Nelson deserves a special mention because of his 15 TDs. The thing is, there are pros and cons about all 6 of those guys.
- Welker will still get his, due to chemistry, but might fall off, and Lloyd might end up playing the 07 Moss role, which hurts him.
- Cruz's season was extraordinary by almost all measures. Does he maintain that level? Does Eli?
- Fitzgerald is probably most stable, since his QBs sucked last year aaaaaannnnndddd...they suck this year.
- Smith is getting older. Does Newton spread it around more to guys like LaFell and Olsen?
- White has to compete with Julio Jones. Still plenty to go around, but does he maintain?
- Nelson's TDs are probably not going to repeat, even with amazing chemistry with Rodgers.

I'm going to make some assumptions and say top 5 after Megatron are (in no particular order), Welker, White, Fitzgerald, Wallace, and Marshall. Welker should still get 1100 yards minimum from Brady, he's super consistent (he averages over 1200 yards a season, so 1100 is low balling). White's difficulties competing with Jones might be offset by Gonzalez's decline, and any problems with Turner will benefit him. Fitzgerald got 1300 yards with crap QBs, I have to imagine he'll manage somehow. Wallace is up and coming, and has a ton of 20+ yard TDs in the past 3 years. There's value there. Marshall gets in because he and Cutler were a monster fantasy combo last time they were together, and there are some good reasons to expect a repeat.

Nelson, again, gets an honorable mention because the dynamic of GB hasn't changed, so he should still be good for 1K yards and 10 TDs. He's definitely solid and safe, if not flashy.

[RVAbrendan]

I'm going to make some assumptions and say top 5 after Megatron are (in no particular order), Welker, White, Fitzgerald, Wallace, and Marshall. Welker should still get 1100 yards minimum from Brady, he's super consistent (he averages over 1200 yards a season, so 1100 is low balling). White's difficulties competing with Jones might be offset by Gonzalez's decline, and any problems with Turner will benefit him. Fitzgerald got 1300 yards with crap QBs, I have to imagine he'll manage somehow. Wallace is up and coming, and has a ton of 20+ yard TDs in the past 3 years. There's value there. Marshall gets in because he and Cutler were a monster fantasy combo last time they were together, and there are some good reasons to expect a repeat.

Nelson, again, gets an honorable mention because the dynamic of GB hasn't changed, so he should still be good for 1K yards and 10 TDs. He's definitely solid and safe, if not flashy.

I like this assessment. I think Marshall is going to have an outstanding year. Both Wallace and Brown will be studs again for Pittsburgh.

As a mid-draft pick-up, try to get Torrey Smith. He's improved his route running and physicality to compliment his outstanding speed. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take over Boldin as their #1 receiver.

Edit: Someone help me out with my question above. I'm stumped!!