Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

[skins1206]

Woah dude...i haven't seen the article yet, but my friend just texted me saying that Black Ops 2 will be much like the Homefront system, in that you earn points for everything. Capping flags, spotting bad guys, destroying enemy equipment, will all lead to killstreaks. Though the game didn't do very well sales wise, I thought Homefront had the best killstreak system of any FPS i've ever played.

Finally, "try hards" are starting to be rewarded for their hard work. FPS games have been encouraging people to camp for years because you had to stay alive in order to hit big streaks. not anymore.

In MW3 you get points too. So they are already doing that.

As far as MW3 goes, I still think its a better game than MW2. Its basically a polished MW2 to me. However, it didn't really change anything so people hate it. If it came out when MW2 did, people would have had a different view i think.

[youngchew]

Pretty big heads up here guys. I was in GameStop last night, and the dude told me that the pre-order special to get the bonus nuketown 2025 map is only through this Friday. He said he wasn't sure about it, but he thought it was this Friday. i went ahead and put a down payment on it just to be safe. might wanna check into if if you were planning on pre-ordering to get the bonus map.

i NEED that nuketown

---------- Post added August-16th-2012 at 06:54 AM ----------

In MW3 you get points too. So they are already doing that.
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ah, that's good stuff. I didn't remember if it did or not. I only had about 4 hours online before i stopped playing it LOL. I can't put my finger on why MW3 was so bad to me. I really enjoyed MW2, had a ton of fun playing it. But within 10 minutes of playing MW3 for the first time, I hated it.

[Sticksboi05]

it was the best one to date. different opinions. some people smoke weed, some people smoke crack. mw would be crack.

and as far as "doing anything for the series," the series was fine. 25 killstreaks didn't do anything for the series other than make it a crackfest.

It's 95% the same as COD 4 but in a different era. Same engine + a couple updates. COD4 was much more innovative and even then outside of the perks system it didn't do that much to the FPS formula started with Goldeneye in '96.

---------- Post added August-16th-2012 at 09:01 AM ----------

In MW3 you get points too. So they are already doing that.

As far as MW3 goes, I still think its a better game than MW2. Its basically a polished MW2 to me. However, it didn't really change anything so people hate it. If it came out when MW2 did, people would have had a different view i think.

You should expect more from a new game than MW 2.1.1 no?

[youngchew]

Mmmm.....Goldeneye. Rockets in the Complex. Proximity Mines in the Caves.

[MattFancy]

In MW3 you get points too. So they are already doing that.

As far as MW3 goes, I still think its a better game than MW2. Its basically a polished MW2 to me. However, it didn't really change anything so people hate it. If it came out when MW2 did, people would have had a different view i think.

But why would you spend $60 on a game when its the same as the last one? That's why people were mad. Its not that the game itself was terrible, its just that it was pretty much an expansion pack to MW2.

---------- Post added August-16th-2012 at 09:05 AM ----------

Mmmm.....Goldeneye. Rockets in the Complex. Proximity Mines in the Caves.

Haha those were the days!

[Major Harris]

It's 95% the same as COD 4 but in a different era. Same engine + a couple updates. COD4 was much more innovative and even then outside of the perks system it didn't do that much to the FPS formula started with Goldeneye in '96.

to me, cod is about gameplay and maps. w@w had the best of both. adding a million different ways to get kills did nothing.

[Sticksboi05]

to me, cod is about gameplay and maps. w@w had the best of both. adding a million different ways to get kills did nothing.

I mean the maps were decent and the online gameplay was more unreliable. The gameplay was about the same since they were too lazy to use a new engine.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

I don't need the game I love to be revamped every year. The more you play, the more you notice a difference between the games. All the little nuances that can change your style up, the different map layouts, they make all the CODs vastly different to me. I'm all about these games and get excited for each new one. Don't care, or understand for that matter, when people bash it so much. I feel like it's one of those things where attacking something extremely popular is easy. I could go around and bash everything I'm not a fan of either, but what does that do other than make fans of the subject matter disdainful towards me? I like the COD engine like I like football. I don't need either revamped every year, the small changes are good enough.

[Sticksboi05]

I don't need the game I love to be revamped every year. The more you play, the more you notice a difference between the games. All the little nuances that can change your style up, the different map layouts, they make all the CODs vastly different to me. I'm all about these games and get excited for each new one. Don't care, or understand for that matter, when people bash it so much. I feel like it's one of those things where attacking something extremely popular is easy. I could go around and bash everything I'm not a fan of either, but what does that do other than make fans of the subject matter disdainful towards me? I like the COD engine like I like football. I don't need either revamped every year, the small changes are good enough.

Some of us expect more effort that's all. It's the equivalent of expansion packs and we are charged $60...

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Some of us expect more effort that's all. It's the equivalent of expansion packs and we are charged $60...

I disagree. A hypothetical expansion pack would add a select number of new items or maps to the base gameplay. A new game, while it's still CALL OF DUTY -- like football is football, will have many subtle differences that are easy to dismiss if you aren't a hardcore player. For example, one of the many things that switched my style up between Black Ops and MW3 was the fact that they took away the "quickdraw" ability from Sleight of Hand Pro, and made it its own perk. Sounds negligible, but now I hipfire probably 30% more than I did in Black Ops.

I've changed my approach in every COD. Differences in the map designs are ridiculously obvious to me, and I always go through a period where I test everything out to find out what works best. I'd say it takes me 4 months to really start peaking at each COD.

I really hope they don't go insane and turn COD in to Battlefield's twin brother because everybody that DOESN'T play it still complains for some reason. Uh, go get another game.

[Sticksboi05]

I disagree. A hypothetical expansion pack would add a select number of new items or maps to the base gameplay. A new game, while it's still CALL OF DUTY -- like football is football, will have many subtle differences that are easy to dismiss if you aren't a hardcore player. For example, one of the many things that switched my style up between Black Ops and MW3 was the fact that they took away the "quickdraw" ability from Sleight of Hand Pro, and made it its own perk. Sounds negligible, but now I hipfire probably 30% more than I did in Black Ops.

I've changed my approach in every COD. Differences in the map designs are ridiculously obvious to me, and I always go through a period where I test everything out to find out what works best. I'd say it takes me 4 months to really start peaking at each COD.

I really hope they don't go insane and turn COD in to Battlefield's twin brother because everybody that DOESN'T play it still complains for some reason. Uh, go get another game.

I played each Call of Duty a lot up until MW3. I played Call of Duty 2 and 3 which I guarantee is more than the vast majority of current players can say. Enough was enough. Do something innovative. The online system introduced in COD4 was that. 4 was vastly superior to 3. It's almost the same since then. If you didn't play before 4 you won't understand how refreshing it was and how comparatively every game since has been underwhelming.

What you explained is understandable but it seems you're okay with dropping $60 to hipfire 30 percent more. It's still almost the game. If they stopped the ridiculous 2-year production cycles you would see much better products.

[No Excuses]

MW3 is the most diverse COD they've had in the series. They basically took out the cheap stuff from MW2 and turned into a well balanced game.

It didn't have crutches for the crappy players which is why I'm assuming it received negative reviews initially.

[MattFancy]

MW3 is the most diverse COD they've had in the series. They basically took out the cheap stuff from MW2 and turned into a well balanced game.

It didn't have crutches for the crappy players which is why I'm assuming it received negative reviews initially.

I don't think that had anything to do with it. My K/D ratio was pretty much the same in MW2 and MW3, may have even better a tad higher in MW3.

I just flat out didn't like the game. It honestly felt like they just made a few improvements from MW2 and newer maps. It just didn't have the replay appeal to me like MW2 or Black Ops did.

[youngchew]

It just didn't have the replay appeal to me like MW2 or Black Ops did.

Exactly how I feel as well. For whatever reason, MW3 just didn't do it for me.

I loved MW2, but hated MW3. I loved Blops 1 as well, so here's to hoping I enjoy Blops 2!

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

What you explained is understandable but it seems you're okay with dropping $60 to hipfire 30 percent more.

K, hold on. Ahhhhh, alright. 30% more, that's right. Hipfiring in MW3 a lot more than any COD before. In fact, I never friggen' hipfired in MW2, did you?

Anyhoots... guess it's necessary, for some reason, to point out that my example of having to hipfire more isn't only example I could list. Furthermore, it isn't the soul reason I buy new Call of Dutys...

Alright...just so we're clear on that...

So, yes, COD4 was a massively innovative gem of a game. Love that game more than any in the past 20 years, man. Maybe my favorite video game of all time. Hell, now that I think about it, COD4 IS my favorite game ever. And that game had Martyrdom and Last Stand as PERKS.

Just love to shoot players in ANY Call of Duty, man, that's it. It's pretty innocent (or maybe not). The subtle/not so subtle changes the series goes through each year keeps my ADD in check.

Can't wait to dive in to Black Ops 2, the new loadout system sounds amazing to me. Haven't played MW3 for a few weeks, but next week my COD partner will have Xbox up and ready for another push 'til November.