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Then why did you make the post? Seems kinda pointless to me.Originally Posted by kleese
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Then why did you make the post? Seems kinda pointless to me.
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Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I'm not going to base progress on win and loss this year. I'm going to base progress on QB play/WR play and how our O line performs
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
And what is magic about "year five?"
Seems odd to me that we'd go 6-10, 5-11, 4-12, 3-13, and then win the Super Bowl.
All I'm saying is that I think it is now reasonable to expect some on-field progress in the W/L column. Again, I'm on board with the "five years to being a title team" plan. I am not on board with the "five years before we see .500" plan.
---------- Post added August-19th-2012 at 10:09 PM ----------
Made the post because I've seen a lot of people saying they expect a 3-13/4-12 type of season and that they'd be OK with it as long as we made progress. My counter to that is I don't think we can consider 3-13/4-12 progress given the fact that we are now in year three of the process.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Absolutely NO to Shanny being on any kind of chopping block. We need to stay the course with him, and give him his 5 years at least. Anything else is more of the same. These things do not happen overnight, and now with the unethical, immoral, petty, and in my opinion illegal theft (just because the NFL pulled a Mafia style back door deal with the NFLPA signing off on it doesn't make it legal...it just makes it impossible to contest) of our salary cap space over the next two seasons it's going to be even harder to fill the gaps. We need time and patience. Hopefully, this year we make some more strides.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
This thread is one year too early.
And that's the best I can say to a surprising one from a poster I have a lot of time for.
Hail.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I think each Super Bowl win buys two losing seasons. Shanny gets four. Billick and gruden get two. Gibbs gets six
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Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
I get what you're saying, kleese. At what point do you have to start wondering if Shanahan has "it" anymore?
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Funny thing is that I am OK with a losing season. I could see us making real progress and going 7-9 this year. Selling me on progress at 3-13 is going to be really hard.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
But last year I was told by many fans that we need to lose every game possible to get a good draft pick. Why doesn't that logic apply to this year?
RIP royallypwned.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Then we simply disagree GHH. If you are telling me that 3-13 won't raise your eyebrows and be cause for major concern, then we simply disagree.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Absolutely not, how many times must we repeat history to know that it hasn't worked before? If we keep changing systems on a young qb, then we are bound to keep losing. Despite our suffering as fans to losing records, Shanahan has to at least finish his first contract. He bought himself a couple of seasons by drafting Robert.
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Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Depends on the reason(s) we go 3-13.
Last edited by Painkiller; August-19th-2012 at 10:18 PM.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Your last sentence is my major fear and it's why I want to do at least a little winning now. I agree that going with RG3 likely buys him more time and leeway with both fans and media--- and probably even Snyder. But he has been building this team in his mold now for two years and if I year four we are still looking at double-digit losses, I think that's a major, major problem.Absolutely not, how many times must we repeat history to know that it hasn't worked before? If we keep changing systems on a young qb, then we are bound to keep losing. Despite our suffering as fans to losing records, Shanahan has to at least finish his first contract. He bought himself a couple of seasons by drafting Robert.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Snyder hired Shanahan for 5 years. Shanahan told Snyder it would take all 5 years to turn the Skins into consistent contenders. So it makes sense to see the 5-years out and then do an assessment. Only something incredibly dramatic like going 0-16 or going 16-0, should change that.
I can't figure out why seeing a plan through is so freakin' hard to understand and DO when it comes to this franchise and its fans. Hiring someone like Shanahan should NOT be on a trial basis..."We'll see how you do after your first few seasons then take it from there". Hell no.
Re: If the Skins go 6-10 or worse, Shanny SHOULD be on the chopping block
Or we could just finish the preseason and the actual season and see what happens before we decide what record equals progress....
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